At the end of the day...they have to address the emissions/compliance issue. That or buy the cars back. It was just in the news that they're worried about collateral values (in reference to Volkswagons Finacial arm) due to the impacted vehicles depreciating. Someone made the comment that "these loans won't go into default because these are people with solid credit histories (as a whole) who wouldn't benefit from defaulting."
Keep in mind that they're quietly replacing HPFP's as they fail because if they don't...pissed off customers will band together and eventually force a recall. It's MUCH cheaper to make 0.5%-1.0% of people happy than it is to be forced to make EVERYONE happy by preemptively replacing HPFP's with units that are just going to fail eventually anyways. In that way, they're avoiding duplication of effort. Win/win for them.
Let us not forget that they designed a HPFP that is not up to the challenge, a turbo that likes to snap in two, an intercooler that functions as an atmospheric distillation unit, etc., etc., etc.
Actually, they purchased (not designed) a HPFP that is not up to the challenge; similarly they purchased, not designed, the turbo. I'm not sure about the intercooler...
Much better..
VW should have tested the components before they assembled them in their product rather than waiting to see if the said components fail in the real world that we drive our cars in. Hope and pray that there will be no failures is not good business for future sales.
Car manufacturers spend millions on millions testing products before unleashing them upon a gullible public. However, what transpires in the real world is different than can be replicated in a testing regimen: the passage of actual time and the abuse that the public can dream up to be foisted on any product.
I'm considering this option as well... Depends on how much VW will help out.
As reported on this MB there were failures of the hpfp within weeks of purchase. I don't think the cars could possibly been abused to a point of failure in such a short period of time (real; world). I'll bet even lab testing showed early failure and VW chose to ignore it and did not raise a red flag.
Was it the "our tree hugging EPA" or was it lobbyists and an auto industry that has shown no interest in small diesels for the consumer because they don't think there is a market?
but frankly, I personally think that NOx emission standards were low enough already, and I am happy to get near 50mpg.GO Malone Go..... Get a 3.5 pollute the air a little more and do it really fastThe emissions defeat issue is not a big deal to me. Yes, I am stumped that VW would take such a massive risk and let this go on for nearly 7 years
Please NHTSA and get better mpg, or please EPA and meet the newer NOx standard??? I choose lower carbon dioxide emissions. Regarding particulates... human beings are stirring up a storm of all sorts of particles on the planet, from explosives to free burning blow off torches at oil fields, all of which account for much higher particulates emissions than our 2L TDIs.
Most importantly, I feel LUCKY to have bought a new 2014 JSW TDI BEFORE this happened. I'll protect it like the family jewels
It is an awesome vehicle, and don't expect me to take it in for any update, ever. I may opt for Malone tune and possibly a DPF delete at some point. If I had the free cash, I'd probably do it now!
D I did .....I have nothing but smiles as pass cars by in a flash .... mind you, I would not be surprised if somehow they tried to get their "greedy" hands on my car before I need a sticker again. This is liberals in Ontario, right and their famous Drive Clean non-sense.
I agree with paragrunt, it was the EPA.
Really? So how do people who live where emission tests are mandatory pass the test, bribe the tester?
We debunked that test several days ago. It has no basis in reality whatsoever.
IMHO VW has had a big time trust issue for the past few years and this most recent mess points to a culture of hiding problems. My direct experience has been with a DMF which grenaded at 77k. They did not admit fault but kind of did with a not-so-subtle part number/supplier change for the replacement DMf. A similar contributor to the trust issue could be said about a substandard cam design which wears out waaay before it should have (PD engines). Then there's the infamous HPFP issue; I can recall being at the dealer for the DMf issue in 2009 when there was an angry customer present facing thousands for a fuel system replacement, only to be accused of misfueling. They finally did mostly reimburse, but only after repeated failures. When there are a crazy number of car companies out there, and the profit margins being razor thin, you would think a better strategy would be to build customer loyalty by building or repairing trust instead of repeatedly breaking trust. I still love the car 260k miles later but am leery of vw as a company-not that I blindly trust any manufacturer.
