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TDI (Diesel) Emissions This is a discussion about emissions from TDI's. Pro's cons of Diesels (including biodiesel) effects on the environment and how they compare to Gasoline and other fuel sources for Internal combustion engines.

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Old October 9th, 2017, 00:30   #16
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Wondering if the dude is an insurance agent. Sheesh. Talk about a fear monger. The data clearly shows that the vast majority of the HPFP failures occur in the first 50 to 60 k miles of usage. Still no valid reason why that occurs, but if your car is running fine and you have not had HPFP problems, it is decreasingly likely to happen. Best wishes on your decision.
Insurance agent....lol
That's Funny
So is data.
VW said misfueling causes the cp4 to fail yet 5 years of testing by the NHTSA found no proof that misfueling would cause a cp4 failure.
Volkswagen lied...
Wait till you are standing there being told that you missfueled your car...over and over and over....and being told that warranty won't cover it.
I wouldn't stand for it....a 20 minute conversation with the regional rep changed the whole picture real fast.

The one that kept saying we missfueled our car was warned by the manager not to talk to us. Last time I saw him, he wasn't talking to the customers much anymore...

They treat us much better now. Top notch service.

We took time with our decision and had done our research long ago.
We decided the buyback was a way out.

Mike if your advice is to gamble on a $10,000 repair bill, to someone who admits they are not a mechanic.

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someone like myself - who is not a mechanic)
and make light of those that are giving proper and well advised warnings
Shame on you Mike

SMH*** Mike in Anchorage***SMH

kVox42 if you read Mike's post you will find a few things that should act as a warning...
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Originally Posted by Mike in Anchorage View Post
Wondering if the dude is an insurance agent. Sheesh. Talk about a fear monger. The data clearly shows that the vast majority of the HPFP failures occur in the first 50 to 60 k miles of usage. Still no valid reason why that occurs, but if your car is running fine and you have not had HPFP problems, it is decreasingly likely to happen. Best wishes on your decision.
{Mike's info seems to contradict itself.....IMO}
Data can show lots of things if you manipulate it right.
I never found any data that justifies a $10,000 repair bill to fix a failed HPFP....
The VW company made lift pumps with the wrong steel, when the rods rust they plug the filter and starve the cp4...leading to failure.
{Dweisel has a kit to change the rods to stainless,which they should have been in the first place}
The stock filtration system is a bad design. 2micron's kit take a sudden cp4 failure and turn it into a long drawn out affair lasting weeks, not seconds..
Truth is, the cp4 is a bad design. The stock cp4 can self destruct, it tries to do the job of raising fuel pressure from approx 80 psi to over 25,000psi. My cp3 uses 3 pistons and can raise fuel from 0 to way over 27,000psi. The cp4 uses 1.
When the Fass, on my 03 Dodge, went out, I didn't even know it.
Ran perfect for days...
Thought the fuel pressure sender died......too funny...great pump
We almost installed one on our 2011 Tdi...then VW gave us a way out.
Thank you VW.
Good luck KVox42, try and make the right decision.
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(These are my opinions based on my experiences, I have more than enough tools to be dangerous and enough age to forget how to use em..lol)
From Canada eh!

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Old October 9th, 2017, 22:19   #17
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My first CR TDI was an 09, built in Oct 08. The warnings, hand wringing, etc, got to be so intense I stopped reading many of the threads. FWIW, unless you go to the dealer, a bill for repair of HPFP failure is now FAR less than $10k.

2 is a great company and I admire what he's done with the information and how well his product works. Sure, go for it.
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Old October 9th, 2017, 22:40   #18
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Had my 2013 Golf and my 2015 Jetta fixed and they are both running the same as they did before. Notice no changes at all. I drive 2 to 3 hundred miles a day sometimes and my mileage nor power has changed at all.. I noticed nothing with the noise levels either. Very glad I kept them because there is no car made that can replace the mileage and the comfort for anywhere near the price..
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