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Old October 25th, 2011, 11:07   #16
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Mad props for your huge balls:-)

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Old October 25th, 2011, 11:18   #17
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oilhammer - sorry, i copy/pasted the wrong curb weight, the US model is just under 3000lbs empty, and 3500lbs with water/cargo. so it's the same, although a slightly different layout inside.

tomc585 - it's auto. all my other VWs (and every other vehicle i've owned) have been manual, but with towing, i wanted to focus more on driving/the road, so i went auto.

all - it's also broken in with 10,000kms before i started towing with, as was recommended by most RV dealers.
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Old October 25th, 2011, 11:20   #18
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DSG.... holy cow. Yeah, that is probably not a good thing then. Maybe steady cruising on the highway would be fine, though. I'd not want to get caught in any traffic jams.
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Old October 25th, 2011, 11:26   #19
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I've towed all sorts of things with all sorts of vehicles. Many times WAAYYY in excess of given limits. My take on those experiences is that the limits do not form a clear line between what is safe and what is not.

If a vehicle has crappy road manners when not towing (like most high CG trucks/suv's), then it will be REAL crappy when towing.

A Golf is super sure-footed on the road and that is a big factor in the whole rig being stable.

True, the size of that trailer is eye-opening behind that little car. But the proof is how it handles on the road. The more experience the OP has with the rig, the more he will understand its limits.

Hopefully, he will find the limits without finding the ditch!!

I'm not sure practicing in a parking lot is much use. Where you will lose it is on the highway if you have to make a quick maneuver at 60mph in a crosswind...

Think of this: a road tractor is somewhere around 25-30k lbs. They tow trailers at 50-55k lbs. Over 2X trailer vs tow vehicle weight. OP is a little over 1X.
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Old October 25th, 2011, 13:11   #20
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oilhammer - i've driven through rush hour in seattle and chicago. it sucks to be stuck in traffic with an RV, but it handled fine. before i bought it i tested in on the highway, city driving, stopping quickly, weaving, etc. i also received advice from many experts who speak globally about misconceptions and towing - all said it was 100% safe, and without remark in any locale but north america.

ski in nc - i have driven with 50-60mph cross winds - that also sucks, but it the trailer/car also handled fine. obviously i drive much more carefully in adverse conditions (not like some pickups with 5th wheels weaving in traffic, doing 90 around turns).
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Old October 26th, 2011, 19:21   #21
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Kudos to you Airstreamer!!! If your vehicle and skills permit it, I love it! It just shows what a good driver and good vehicle combo are capable of accomplishing. Like Ski pointed out, semi's carry way over 2X their weight and length, so don't let the nay sayers get to you. The old saying applies, never tell the person who is already doing something that it can't be done. I have seen a U-haul listing that showed that a Ford Explorer couldn't pull a certain trailer, but the mercury equivalent could...go figure that one out. Again, kudo's to you!!!
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Old October 26th, 2011, 19:37   #22
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Airstreamer, this rig is awesome!!! I absolutely love the airstreams, always wanted like an '88 or so, but that's a later-on (retirement...) dream lol. But huge props for using your golf as a hauler. I'm still in the buying process and search for an '04-'05 golf or jetta tdi, and really wanted to get some sort of ultra-light camper tow with it, and I would be using an auto also. I certainly don't have the cajones to tow an airstream, but this is definitely a really cool inspiration! And I own a 1993 F250 7.3IDI non-turbo diesel truck, and myself and a few others have towed loads that FAR surpass the manufacturer's recommendations for the vehicle, not just to be rebels, but with tried and tested experience the trucks were more than capable, and mine has been now for over 267K miles on original, un-rebuilt or beefed up driveline. I know an F250 and a Golf are like apples and ELEPHANTS, but the point is that the vehicles can handle, with proper driving and experience, more than "recommended". My point is, if you can handle that rig and have without issue or breakage, keep on keeping on! Again, awesome rig man!

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Old October 26th, 2011, 20:18   #23
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I'm not sure the comparison to length and weight ratios is valid here. Doesn't it make a big difference that the pivot point on the semi is over the rear axle and the pivot point on a car or pickup towing is well behind? On the car, the first motion of the trailer is in the opposite direction of the car, then it swings back. That sets the stage for an oscillation that can throw you in the ditch. A semi or 5th wheel has the trailer initial motion in the same direction as the tow vehicle so it should be much more stable.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 05:09   #24
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The pivot point location on a fifth wheel is an advantage for stability however there are also several disadvantages to a fifth wheel system. The pivot point is up very high along with the Centre of Gravity. A fifth hitch does not transfer weight to the front wheels of the tow vehicle. A fifth wheel gives a very stable feel running straight down the hiway but it does not have a lot of control in an accident avoidance situation espessially if you have to go onto a shoulder or median to avoid something. As well fifth wheels generally have much longer stopping distances because huge weight is transfered to the back wheels of the tow vehicle.

This Golf and Airstream combination is more stable and stops quicker than probably 98% of the RV's on the road. You really would have to drive it to beleive it.

We have been towing wth TDI's since 2006. We put 150,000 kilometers on our 2006 TDI with a 5 speed manual. At least half of those kilometers were towing and it did deliveries all over Canada. We did wear out the clutch at 140K but this car did hundreds of test drives often with people that had not driven a manual in years so I don't see that as too bad. The DSG and the 6 speed manual have a much lower first gear ratio so we will see how it holds up. We now have a 2010 Jetta with 95,000 kilometers on it and about 60K of that is towing, so far there have been no issues with it. The Jetta is not as stable as the Golf due to the longer rear overhang but the suspension is so nicely tuned on these cars it still works very well.

Independent rear suspension is a huge asset when towing. If you are looking for a TDI to tow with, the new Jetta with the twist beam axle is not as good as the 2010 and installing a proper receiver on it is consderably more difficult. The new Passat is not a problem.

Low aerodynamic drag, good balance and suspension on the trailer are considerably more important than just weight when assessing a trailer for towability. I hope this helps for those that may want to RV but not give up their amazing fuel economy.
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Old November 11th, 2011, 00:55   #25
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Oh...my...gosh...

Now wait a second...I've been thinking I'd need to get a whole new TV for fulltiming in a smaller trailer (say, 19-20 feet)...but...I already own a 2006 Jetta TDI. Does anyone think that could pull a 19-20' trailer? That would make me completely and utterly, blissfully, happy!

ETA: Squeeeee! http://www.canamrv.ca/towing/car-vid...a-towing-visa/

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Old November 11th, 2011, 06:06   #26
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Wow, I would hate to get in some nasty crosswinds with that setup! That trailer looks to be too tall for the Jetta.
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Old November 11th, 2011, 12:19   #27
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This is an interesting (European) site for figuring out what car will handle what trailer.

http://www.towcar.info/index.php
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Old November 11th, 2011, 15:18   #28
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Below is a link to a trailer that is built for those that own small cars.

http://tinyhouseblog.com/travel-trai...he-tb-trailer/

Scroll down the page a little to see what VW is pulling one of their trailers. If that VW can pull a T@B trailer, then a Golf TDI definitely would not have an issue pulling one.
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Old November 11th, 2011, 15:45   #29
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Whoa. Those are So. Cute.

At http://www.canamrv.ca/towing/ , if you look at the Jaguar vids, you can see how they run the different autos through handling tests - interesting stuff.

Paul, I can hardly wait to hear how your rig works for you!
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Old November 30th, 2011, 04:43   #30
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trailer trucks haul loads that outweigh themselves why can't a car? I hauled my fifth wheel at 15 16000 pounds with my 9000 pound truck well enough
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