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Old March 21st, 2011, 17:20   #931
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This splitting hairs over whether or not receipts are valid is absolutley sickening. RECIPTS ARE VALID PROOF THAT YOU PURCHASED DIESEL. It's enough. It is, really. Nothing else you can do will carry any more weight in court, save for getting a fuel sample and having it analyzed at $200/sample EVERY TIME and saving those records, with your receipt of course.

You can go down may tangents about "what ifs" and such, but it's all the same. Receipts are enough. They are. Period. As stated before, unless you are getting fuel samples analyzed every tank, the mere fact that you have a receipt that states you purchased diesel fuel is more than most are going to bring to any type of litigation / arbitration hearing and that WILL WORK IN YOUR FAVOR.

Jeez Louise. I just don't get it. If you truly believe that this car is that much of a hassle to own, put a for sale sign in it and remove what sounds like a huge element of stress from your life.
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Old March 21st, 2011, 18:09   #932
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This splitting hairs over whether or not receipts are valid is absolutley sickening. RECIPTS ARE VALID PROOF THAT YOU PURCHASED DIESEL. It's enough. It is, really. Nothing else you can do will carry any more weight in court, save for getting a fuel sample and having it analyzed at $200/sample EVERY TIME and saving those records, with your receipt of course.

You can go down may tangents about "what ifs" and such, but it's all the same. Receipts are enough. They are. Period. As stated before, unless you are getting fuel samples analyzed every tank, the mere fact that you have a receipt that states you purchased diesel fuel is more than most are going to bring to any type of litigation / arbitration hearing and that WILL WORK IN YOUR FAVOR.

Jeez Louise. I just don't get it. If you truly believe that this car is that much of a hassle to own, put a for sale sign in it and remove what sounds like a huge element of stress from your life.


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Old March 21st, 2011, 20:25   #933
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 06:06   #934
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You've got an AMEN for that.

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Amen brother!

Only 66 more posts until this thread breaks the 1000 mark

I bought a '04 new and heard about the DMF grenading (it didn't), the cam, lifters, bearing getting trashed (they didn't in 195,300 miles), the windows falling in (they didn't) and countless other "defects" which could possibly kill me. Maybe because I used the proper oil and eventually Mobil TDT (thank you TDiclub) and didn't try and squeak it to the max I didn't have any failures. Other than the wrong flywheel sold to me by a club member & vendor.

We just sold the Wagon and in a way I miss it. However it was replaced with a new MkVI Golf w/a 6MT which will supposedly grenade the DMF, the HPFP will self destruct, the Inter Cooler will turn into a block of ice and countless other issues will surface.

My response. Yeah right.

I buy the best fuel I can from one place, the local Farm Service Co-Op which pumps many, many thousands of gallons a week retail and even more to the farmers over a multi county area, blends in 5-11% Soy in the summer months and uses Diesel Ex Gold full time and passes the ASTM tests w/ease. You want to create a real problem, screw up the farmers with crap fuel.

My receipts all say "Diesel" as well as my monthly statement which I pay the bill from so I think I inadvertently have the paperwork trail covered without having to resort to video cameras and such. I will do everything in my power (as I did with the Jetta) to take proper care of my car, I will not push the fluid changes or not do maintenance when called for or in some cases before its called for.

Does that mean I will not have any problems? I hope the Golf will be as trouble free as the Jetta was but I will cover my bases. Being in the Quality field for > 30 years I understand the numbers game, a .11% failure on these cars is a drop in the bucket vs qty produced, yes, until it happens to one of us and a even lower number would be much much better. Feel free to call me a clueless boob but in all my years I have NEVER misfueled my cars or motorcycles and have no plans to start now. And before you ask I'm the only one who fuels it.

I'll let you know how it works out.

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 09:28   #935
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We just sold the Wagon and in a way I miss it. However it was replaced with a new MkVI Golf w/a 6MT which will supposedly grenade the DMF, the HPFP will self destruct, the Inter Cooler will turn into a block of ice and countless other issues will surface.

My response. Yeah right.

Nahh, you forgot to mention your Exhaust flaper valve will fail at least twice before 190K, and you'll need to look for solution to a filled up DPF anywhere after 120K. Oh and your door's wiring harness as well as washer fluid lines will need some tending too. Ohh and good luck with the door lock modules binding up on you too.

Changing your oil on a regular baisis can't excape you from those issue.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 10:41   #936
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So, has anyone estabished a build date or part number or other identifying feature of the final improved HPFP? If I'm looking at a used 2009 I assume it would have the older (un-improved) version unless it was later replaced, right? Are all 2011s "OK"?
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:23   #937
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So, has anyone estabished a build date or part number or other identifying feature of the final improved HPFP? If I'm looking at a used 2009 I assume it would have the older (un-improved) version unless it was later replaced, right? Are all 2011s "OK"?
No one knows what HPFP design changes were made, or whether those changes have been effective in addressing the HPFP failure issue.

Also, no one knows the cause of the HPFP failures, although there are many theories.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:28   #938
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So, has anyone estabished a build date or part number or other identifying feature of the final improved HPFP? If I'm looking at a used 2009 I assume it would have the older (un-improved) version unless it was later replaced, right? Are all 2011s "OK"?
No.

The NHTSA report says VW made changes in May 2008, September 2009 and November 2010. I am collecting data, but so far I cannot determine if the dates are pump production dates or vehicle production dates. Pumps take anywhere from 40 to 70 days on average to be installed in a vehicle once the pumps are manufactured.

If the dates in the report represent pump production dates, a revision 3 pump might be installed in a car made as early as mid-January 2011, but there's no way to prove it yet. Some of the newest pumps have colored dots on them, which is to indicate something, and possibly to indicate the pump is a revision 3 pump. Again, I don't have enough data to figure this out yet.

On the other hand, plenty of us with "revision 1" pumps or even original revision pumps are operating their 2009s without issue. If you're considering not getting a 2009 because of this problem, you're probably best off getting a 05.5-06 and taking care of it.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:34   #939
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Maybe there's a dealer somewhere who can tell the new pumps somehow. Too bad there's no well connected dealer who's club friendly. Maybe some members can hang out with a big shot somehow.
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So, has anyone estabished a build date or part number or other identifying feature of the final improved HPFP? If I'm looking at a used 2009 I assume it would have the older (un-improved) version unless it was later replaced, right? Are all 2011s "OK"?

Early indications are that they are better. Are they OK? That is a matter of definition. Fewer 2010s have failed than 2009s, but the 2011s are too new to really know just how OK they are. Only time will tell.

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 12:02   #941
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Maybe there's a dealer somewhere who can tell the new pumps somehow.
How about we let them tell the difference between the Castrol SLX Professional OE ("black bottles") and the Castrol SLX Professional LL03 ("gold bottles") first?

They see those more often.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 13:16   #942
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. Fewer 2010s have failed than 2009s, but the 2011s are too new to really know just how OK they are. Only time will tell.

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Late model pumps don't seem to be failing at all. Some late model pumps are way past the mileage where early pumps were failing.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 13:47   #943
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Late model pumps don't seem to be failing at all. Some late model pumps are way past the mileage where early pumps were failing.
Its all a bit reminiscent of the time we went over to unleaded gas. That required hardened valves and valve seats.

Before then it was failure after failure.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 13:53   #944
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I got another email from the NHTSA today. It was a short survey about refueling. Why? When? Did I ever misfuel. blah blah blah.

I cant be responsible for the quality of diesel at retailers nor can I test the fuel at the POS. VAG needs to make a engine that will work with US graded diesel.
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Late model pumps don't seem to be failing at all. Some late model pumps are way past the mileage where early pumps were failing.
Careful. There are a few 2009 owners on here who take exception to their cars being labeled "early". I took an earful for suggesting that 2009 be avoided on the used car market.....
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