Dieselgate, The Canadian Edition
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copperbeech
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The Stage 1 fix has been done for Canadian cars already?
That person was referring to the recall. I believe it only applies to the 2015's model but not sure.
uchu
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Yes, the stage 1 fix for Generation 3 TDI engines is already available in Canada.
ry8ue
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Sorry, forgot to mention that my car is leased so it's pretty straight forward for the TDI return. As far as I am concerned, it's two separate transactions.
Basically, I walked in and told them that I'm looking to buy a Golf R to replace my TDI once the Settlement is finalized. They had a few on the lot and allowed me to take it out for a test drive. We negotiated on the price afterwards ($2K+ off MSRP), and I signed the paperwork & put a $1K deposit down to hold the car until the TDI is ready to be turned in. If the Settlement changes, then they'll refund my deposit should something change after March 31st.
A few other dealers also offered to hold a car on a deposit, but I was able to get the biggest discount here. I spoke to about 5 dealerships in the GTA.
ry8ue
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There seems to be an influx of Golf R's on the lots. I believe the 2017 Golf R production has come to an end, likely a final buy for the dealers because I've never seen so many out there. By many, I mean each dealer has at least a couple.
My TDI is leased. I'm on the hook for the new car once the TDI is returned, if something should go sideways with the Settlement, then they'll refund my $1K deposit should I decide that I want to change plans.
My goal here was to secure a Golf R for the day that I return the TDI.
copperbeech
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I have seen anecdotal reports of customer feedback for US owners of Gen 3 engines having had the Stage 1 fix but haven't seen similarly for Canadians
.Baba O'Riley
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https://www.dlsaccelerator.com/weba...rch.asp?Dealer=210&L=1&submitted=true&opt=New
Georgetown VW showing THIRTY SEVEN Golf Rs in inventory:
Georgetown VW showing THIRTY SEVEN Golf Rs in inventory:
Baba O'Riley
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I have seen anecdotal reports of customer feedback for US owners of Gen 3 engines having had the Stage 1 fix but haven't seen similarly for Canadians
There's a few on the Facebook pages.
Nothing conclusive. In fact exactly the opposite.
Buyer beware!!
Seems to be the only shining light for VW right now. The rising star, for the moment ... so expect them to be pretty stingy with discounts, because right now they sell every single one they can get. Perhaps it has something to do with US buy-backers being ahead of us ....
I like the car myself, but the problem was, no used market obviously ... and brand new is way above the line what I was willing to spend.
A couple of stock # on them is a duplicate ... perhaps an Excel typo, but anyway ...
VW Canada sells about 100 GTI's a month ... I have a hard time believing that even more expensive version of Golf would generate higher sales than that. And even if the did, still 37 in stock by one dealer??? Wow .... I guess everyone wants to drive Golf R in Georgetown .... perhaps it is a hotbed of Golf R's? I had no idea ...
OK. That makes sense, since all the R's seem to be on the lots by now. I had no idea about the end production.
copperbeech
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I am not asking you to look for me but I don't see such posts.
?? Not sure what you mean
Baba O'Riley
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You will have to scroll around, but there are quite a few posts.I am not asking you to look for me but I don't see such posts.
?? Not sure what you mean
Some having no issues, others experiencing reduced mileage. Probably more results on the US TDI forum. Same fix for both countries.
dwfdiesel
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- 2006 Golf & 2012 Golf wagon, 1998 GMC 6.5 with 310,000km
TDI Night
This was in an email I received from my local dealer in Orillia Ontario.
Another fishing trip maybe but I can't go.
TDI Settlement Information Night
Dear ______,
Volkswagen is hosting a TDI Settlement Information Night to review the settlement and claims process with those effected by the nationwide Volkswagen 2.0-Litre TDI (Diesel) Emissions Class Action Settlement in Canada.
Please join us as this information pertains to your TDI vehicle.
Also, please bring your VIN number, current mileage, notebook & pen.
Regards,
General Manager
This was in an email I received from my local dealer in Orillia Ontario.
Another fishing trip maybe but I can't go.
TDI Settlement Information Night
Dear ______,
Volkswagen is hosting a TDI Settlement Information Night to review the settlement and claims process with those effected by the nationwide Volkswagen 2.0-Litre TDI (Diesel) Emissions Class Action Settlement in Canada.
Please join us as this information pertains to your TDI vehicle.
Also, please bring your VIN number, current mileage, notebook & pen.
Regards,
General Manager
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Owain@malonetuning
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Golf Rs are actually really common on the west coast and hard to keep in stock, so I imagine a lot of those are headed over here.
The mk7 1.8T makes stage 2 MK6 GTI power with a high flow downpipe and a tune. I'm sure a lot of diesel owners will swap to that platform, we'll be ready
The mk7 1.8T makes stage 2 MK6 GTI power with a high flow downpipe and a tune. I'm sure a lot of diesel owners will swap to that platform, we'll be ready
That's what I call stingy discount on a 40K OTD car ...
... borderline Subaru.radoroc
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There's tons of them sitting on dealer lots. Cowell has 22 and Regency has 19, and others have double digits as well.Golf Rs are actually really common on the west coast and hard to keep in stock, so I imagine a lot of those are headed over here.
The mk7 1.8T makes stage 2 MK6 GTI power with a high flow downpipe and a tune. I'm sure a lot of diesel owners will swap to that platform, we'll be ready
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b1jackson
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This sounds gloomy. Most likely where I will be heading in a few weeks.Couldn't have said it better myself!!! So true... No such thing as dealing in a Subaru dealership.
dwfdiesel
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What do you think can I trade in my dieselgate TDi 2012 Golf at an Audi dealer for the buyback?
minitechnicus
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Interesting question ! I would like to find out if that is possible. I am looking at A4 (if trade of my Passat 2014 is accepted) or take the $$ and go for a 328d
Cheers
copperbeech
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According to the calculator we would receive $26000 for our 2015 GSW. That amount + $7000) giving us $33000.
How much more would we need to obtain a 2017 R?
How much more would we need to obtain a 2017 GTI?
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copperbeech
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But the date for this settlement program roll out has not yet been revealed?
How much lead time do you think one will have to say do the UPDATE knowing this important date?
Lucsar
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Not trying to bash the brand, in fact I love the Forester. Sat in a 2017 Forester Limited at the Cdn Intl Auto show last month. Really roomy inside, comfortable great visibility. Just find salespeople to be unmotivated, kinda like " you don't want it, there's another dozen people in line that'll it take it at MSRP". Just my .02....
copperbeech
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I would have got a Forester instead of our 2015 GSW except that one is very limited in trim options if one is purchasing the 6 speed MT.
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If you look at Subaru's growth and sales figure of late, you will understand why ... they don't need to give discounts to move cars, especially Forester and Outback
Forester and Outback are decent cars in my opinion ... but, they are expensive and the do feel like cars made by engineers first designer's second (this approach has pros and cons sometimes one is not willing to live with). Their interior is still behind most cars with the same budget and I found their seats to be quite terrible even in limited trim. Even the driver's side was just so flat that it felt like sitting in a bus or cargo van. Just cannot get the seat to point in the right angle.
On the other hand, the dealer I was dealing with, was quite open to go dealer's invoice + 5% (or something reasonable, which 5% in their situation really is).
Somewhere it was said ... yes you can. Easiest is to call an Audi dealer of your choice and ask.
I still somewhat think, that you'd be better off to get your cash from VW and then decide where you go with it. The trade-in in my view unnecessarily ties you in a direction you might find in the end troubling.