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Old July 16th, 2011, 16:47   #1
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I have a 2009 Jetta TDI sportwagon. When I had my 70,000 dealer service this week the dealer said that my 80,000 mile service will include replacing the timing belt - at a cost of $1300 for parts and $700 labor, plus the other 80,000 mile service items. When I checked the manual it says change it at 110,000.

The dealer says it's sooner because it's Texas.

Any reason to bump this up 30,000 miles from what the manual says?
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Old July 16th, 2011, 16:58   #2
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I have a 2009 Jetta TDI sportwagon. When I had my 70,000 dealer service this week the dealer said that my 80,000 mile service will include replacing the timing belt - at a cost of $1300 for parts and $700 labor, plus the other 80,000 mile service items. When I checked the manual it says change it at 110,000.
The dealer says it's sooner because it's Texas.
Any reason to bump this up 30,000 miles from what the manual says?
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Dealers in other states recommend early replacement because THEY ARE NOT IN TEXAS.......

Just kidding, but I would follow the published maintenance schedule if it was my car.

Find a GURU to do the job instead of the dealer and you can probably save well over half of what you were quoted.

$309 for parts..... at this link:
http://www.idparts.com/catalog/produ...oducts_id=2222

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Old July 16th, 2011, 17:37   #3
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You have to admit, the dealers do get creative with service recommendations.
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Old July 16th, 2011, 18:00   #4
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Maybe their reasoning being texas is hot and could theoretically affect belt life. Just a thought...IF they can show you proof that others have had TB failure earlier... There is some truth to this BTW. In your case I would do 100k TB change.
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Old July 16th, 2011, 18:06   #5
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The 2.0 PD in the 2004-05 Passat was published as needing to be replaced at 100,000 miles.
That has since been revised down to 80,000 miles, but there is no re-print, nor even a supplement to insert in the maintenance manual, to inform 04~05 Passat TDI owners of the reduced distance between replacements.
Is the '09 Jetta getting the same secrecy?
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Old July 16th, 2011, 21:24   #6
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Thanks for the replies - I'll probably wait till 100,000 Good information here, thanks
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Old July 17th, 2011, 04:23   #7
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Wow!!! $2000 for a service that isn't required until 120k!!! That's about what I paid to have my timing belt and a DMF replacement on my BRM.

Maybe it has something to do with the saying "Don't mess with Texas!" Like somehow they are tougher on your vehicle than any other state.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 19:57   #8
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When it's really time, I'll check around, hopefully I can get a better price. I may do it at 100,000 miles
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Not to insult anyone that already posted, but have any gurus replaced/checked timing belts on the 09-10? Care to comment on the condition of the TB and the potential need to modify the change interval?
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Old July 18th, 2011, 06:37   #10
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I just changed my second belt on on 06 BRM at 235,000 miles, it had 115,000 on this belt. It looks like the day I put it on, no visible deterioration. BTW my manual says to replace at 100,000 miles, but I pushed them a bit beyond. I paid $265.00 for the parts from Carquest (included idler, tensioner, mount studs for above, water pump and new stretch bolts for the motor mount). I did it myself, takes about 6 hours. I already had the timing tools - $100 and manual - $100.
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I have a 2009 Jetta TDI sportwagon. When I had my 70,000 dealer service this week the dealer said that my 80,000 mile service will include replacing the timing belt - at a cost of $1300 for parts and $700 labor, plus the other 80,000 mile service items. When I checked the manual it says change it at 110,000.
The dealer says it's sooner because it's Texas.
Any reason to bump this up 30,000 miles from what the manual says?
Thanks

Chutzpah - I wonder if these "Service Advisers" get some kind of commission for suggesting maintenance - and in this case unnecessary and a bit early.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 11:51   #12
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Haha........freaking dealership idiots. Follow the maintenance schedule and you'll be fine.

Plenty of places in the metroplex that can do the work correctly at a decent price. PM me if you want a list.

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I did my 2006 BRM Timing belt @ 140k and it looked brand new coming off.

Stretching of the belt as it gets older will mess up the cam timing, but a belt likely won't actually break for possibly 200k+. Of course, don't test that theory unless you like buying engines.

By the way, if doing the job yourself use plenty of loctite and go a tiny bit higher on your torque specs. I used no loctite on my stretch bolts and the damn things backed out after a few thousand miles.
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The 2.0 PD in the 2004-05 Passat was published as needing to be replaced at 100,000 miles.
That has since been revised down to 80,000 miles, but there is no re-print, nor even a supplement to insert in the maintenance manual, to inform 04~05 Passat TDI owners of the reduced distance between replacements.
Is the '09 Jetta getting the same secrecy?
Ja! Ve sell ze auto mit ein implied low maintenanze schedule, und after ze car sold are, ve don't tell ze owners zat der manual wrong ist! Ha-ha!
HA! Funny I should bump into your post on this subject. I just asked the question. I asked for the most recent recommended Timing Belt Interval for my CBEA and was told it is 120k miles. I am looking forward to seeing how it evolves; one of my VAG products started at 120k and ended with a 60k recommended change…...
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I did my 2006 BRM Timing belt @ 140k and it looked brand new coming off.

Stretching of the belt as it gets older will mess up the cam timing, but a belt likely won't actually break for possibly 200k+. Of course, don't test that theory unless you like buying engines.

By the way, if doing the job yourself use plenty of loctite and go a tiny bit higher on your torque specs. I used no loctite on my stretch b
olts and the damn things backed out after a few thousand miles.

No loctite. No overtorque. Not needed IF the torques were right.

BTW, remember that the BEW and BRM TB intervals have been officially to 80K miles. It's not the belt, they always look new. It's the bearing in rollers and water pump.
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