They are down to just replacing the glow plugs with the NGK 09s and reflash the ECU to the latest software.
Technically it does according to qualifying VIN range but that doesn't mean you have to have it done. What it means is if you have the recall done and you have a tune, the new ECU programming will overwrite your custom tune and you'll lose your tune. You can change the GPs yourself and get your custom tune updated for the new steel GPs.Note: It doesn't cover vehicles that have been chipped,tuned,or modified!
The 5V steel glow plugs are outdated and superseded. They are now using NGK ceramic glow plugs which have steel around them to prevent them from breaking off.Technically it does according to qualifying VIN range but that doesn't mean you have to have it done. What it means is if you have the recall done and you have a tune, the new ECU programming will overwrite your custom tune and you'll lose your tune. You can change the GPs yourself and get your custom tune updated for the new steel GPs.
They will never touch my 05 PD JWagen. I already have the new steel recall GPs installed and Rocketchip tuning for the new GPs. I'm glad to be rid of those time bomb ceramic GPs.
They just came out with a new recall that apparently covers all BEWs that have the bosch ceramics and did not get the 5V steel recall done. The other "recall", actually warranty extension, that came out a couple of months ago was to re-do cars that had the 5V recall. You have to show (or at least claim) that you're having cold start problems with the 5V steels to get this. In my situation, I could tell them that the car starts poorly whenever I travel to a cold location, but it hasn't fallen below the mid 20s here yet this winter and probably won't. Of course, the local dealer would be thrilled to see me, considering the first recall resulted in the destruction and warranty replacement of the top end of my engine.
That makes sense. I had the earlier recall done as well and I haven't gotten the newest letter. You should be eligible for an extended warranty through October 2012 (I think?) if the previous recall is causing you hard starting/no starting issues when it is cold out. If it isn't causing you issues, I would just leave it alone since you have steel glow plugs in there now. No reason to go back to ceramic plugs if you don't have to.
My 2004 BEW Wagon calls for 10,000 mile oil changes. I had to point this out to the dealer when I bought the car with 18,000 miles on it. I literally had to show him the manual with oil change interval and the 505.01 spec. They have also replaced my EGR cooler lower pipe 3 times because they took short cuts. The moral is, if you use the dealer for anything, you really have to know the procedures before you drop off the car, search this forum and present the information to the service manager to make sure they follow the prescribed steps in order.
I had a 2006 Jetta previously and am familiar with the dealer routine/specs and such. I am using them only to get recall work done if needed and maintenance history. I am having to learn some new things for a BEW NB instead.
I'm keeping the 5V steel GPs. My RC3 tune operates them properly at 5V and I'm having no issues with cold starts.
They will never touch mine. Technically they won't ever touch it if they tried because my BEW engine is *DEAD* from a timing belt failure in 2009 and is sitting on a shelf in mrchill's shop. I have a new ATD PD engine (the real PD100 in Europe) in place of my original BEW engine. The ATD in the crate came with 11V steel GPs like what an ALH uses. Mrchill installed the 5V steel recall GPs (from the first BEW GP recall) and my ECU was updated by Rocketchip to work with the 5V steel GPs. If I have to replace the 5V steel GPs and they're not available, I will deal with it when the time comes and go to the 7V NGKs and get the ECU updated by Rocketchip. VW dealers are definitely not going to touch it.turbocharged798 said:
I say we're best to stick with steel GPs no matter what and update the tuning in our ECUs by our favorite tuners as needed. I'm glad to be rid of the original Bosch time bomb ceramic GPs.
IMHO, it's well worth the cost if necessary to prevent VW dealers from butchering the car and wiping out my RC tuning.