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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old April 21st, 2014, 17:41   #1
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Default Window Tint: Ceramic vs. Non Ceramic

Who knows a lot about window tinting?

I've never had a car with tinted windows before, but I want to get my Passat tinted. I have a line on a really good deal to get them done, however they state the tint they use is "non ceramic". Ceramic is available, however it is significantly more expensive.

What's the straight dope - is ceramic tint that much better? Is it better at all? Worth an almost 100% premium?

I would imagine that ceramic tint would hold out heat better, but I don't know of any other benefits or if that's even a benefit.
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Old April 21st, 2014, 18:11   #2
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Don,

Here is an company web site for a local tinter. It makes some claims about ceramic tint: no Radio/GPS RX interference and better heat rejection.

I have no idea if this is true, but maybe it will serve to get the discussion going.

http://www.tintprosmobile.com/pricing.html

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Old April 21st, 2014, 18:58   #3
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I had mine done with Huper Optik ceramic tint. Very good in the Texas heat. Works very well and I am very happy with it.

http://huperoptikusa.com/

Not as dark as it seems from the inside:

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Old April 21st, 2014, 21:27   #4
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Who knows a lot about window tinting?

I've never had a car with tinted windows before, but I want to get my Passat tinted.
I don't know about ceramic vs. normal, but I do know this: whichever one you choose, it is not a DIY project. Take it to a tint shop.

See cars around town with bubbles in the tint? They tried to save money by doing it themselves. They got what they paid for.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 05:14   #5
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I have been tinting my cars since 1994. Mostly using non-ceramic and mirror (metallic) tint, until 2 years ago when I started to use ceramic. And there is a huge diff. in heat rejection IMHO. I'll spend the extra money to have ceramic in all my cars from now on.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 05:25   #6
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Yes it is but I don't know if I'd pay the extra cost if I lived in Illinois.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 05:37   #7
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Are there any results from proper independent testing? Not that I don't respect TypeRod's experience or opinions, but I am just curious to see the difference.
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I haven't seen any testing other than the specs listed at some web sites. I have noticed a big difference when holding my hand behind and in front of the window though. You can feel the heat without the tint and not with it in place. It also protects the interior from fading and such.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 07:38   #9
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non ceramic are Dye & Metal based

Dye-based don't have the radio/GPS interference either.
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non ceramic are Dye & Metal based

Dye-based don't have the radio/GPS interference either.
Yes! There are basically 3 types of tint films. There are dye based films, metallic films and ceramic films.
-Dye based films are cheapest, but they have a bad habit of changing colors as they age (ever seen an older car with purple windows?).
-Metallic films have much better heat rejection and they don't change color. However, metallic films can attenuate radio signals. Sometimes this can be bad enough to cause problems with GPS units and any other kind of radio that does not have an outside antenna.
-Ceramic (or nano-ceramic) films are the most expensive because they are generally considered the best. They have excellent heat rejection, excellent color stability, and they do not attenuate RF signals.

I would recommend sticking with a well known tint film manufacturer like 3M, HuperOptiks, Llumar, etc. However, what is just as important as the film you choose is the installer you choose. A good film badly installed can also be bad news. Also, keep in mind that what tint is legal varies a lot from state to state. This could be important if you think you might be moving.

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Speaking of tint and local laws/regulations. As somebody who's had tint a long time now. I average one stop in 5-6 months. Just so that you're aware.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 20:16   #12
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Trust me, you will want ceramic window tinting.

When I bought my car, I convinced my dealer to pay to have my car's windows tinted with my choice of tint and installer as part of the reparations for mistake during the process of shipping me the Passat I had originally ordered. So, I took my car to Tint World the weekend finally I received my vehicle and picked their Ultimate TOL tint package. It included their premium "Sun Tek" ceramic tinting and a lifetime warranty against any sort of scratching, fading, peeling, bubbling, chipping, or any other damage. I chose to have 35% (Texas legal limit for front side windows) installed on my front two windows, and 18% (Texas has no regulations for any of the rearward windows) installed on the rear side windows and rear window. They even perfectly cut out the section to keep the third rear brake light exposed per my request.

So far I have been quite impressed! The franchisers were extremely friendly and easy to deal with, and performed a very professional and precise installation of my tinting with no imperfections. The ceramic tinting performs excellently at rejecting heat from my car and keeping it surprisingly cool, although I imagine the white/cornsilk combination helps keep the temps down too. Visibility is great from the inside, and I never feel like I'm blinded out of any of the windows even at night, including the rear window, yet I don't feel like I'm bathing in sun all day long either. Lastly, the privacy is surprisingly effective as well. Although my ceramic tinting is easy to see out of from the inside, it seems it is harder to see into the car from the outside. I also feel that the dark windows contrast very well with my white Passat. The picture in my signature doesn't exactly do it justice, so I'll try to post a better one in the sunlight tomorrow.

Basically, I'm very pleased with my ceramic tinting, and am glad it should be problem free for as long as I have the car. My Volvo 850's dye-based tinting, on the other hand, hasn't fared so well over the 18 years that car has spent here in the southwest. I have no clue who installed it or what it is, and sadly it has turned purple.

Good luck choosing the right tint!

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Old April 22nd, 2014, 20:31   #13
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What's a good price for a 5 window tint job on a Passat with quality film? What are people paying to have this done?
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^^^my question, as well. I'll be having it done in Ft. Worth. I'll see if Tint World has a franchise nearby. Thanks for the clear post, TurboDieselPoint
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I didn't spring for ceramic tint in my car, and I had 7 windows tinted. All 4 doors, the back window and the small windows behind the backdoors. All in all, it was about $200.
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