Best turbo for 350/400HP 1.9 TDI PD

Hello, I want your opinions on what is currently the best turbo for the 1.9 tdi pd? Taking into account that it is expected to take near 400HP without nitro...
So I would like your opinions and knowledge, for example:
Garrett GT2260V starts at 2500rpm has power up to 5000rpm
making a pressure of 2.0 bar ... this is an example ...
because I am a long time away from the cars, but that to come back ... in my time I used the GT2359V from the mercedes and was a good turbo, but it was in 2006/2007 now the turbos have evolved a lot, we already have the VK and VKLR geometries ...
Help me choose the best ...

Garrett GT2359V
Garrett GTB2260VK
Garrett GTB2260VKLR (Ball Bearing Turbo)
Garrett GTB2566VK
Borge Wagner S356
Garrett GTB3576KLNRV
Other??? Which one??



PS:
The car I cause will be a Seat Leon FR (ARL engine) 150cv is a European model, which is a bit heavy, it is not a light car... Have a 1376kg (I think, but it needs to be confirmed)
Thanks

Im not a turbo guy but i thing you need something like 2569 or GTX3071
Ibiza is doing 10.5s on GTX3071 on bmw turbo base

Macradiators.com said:

Im not a turbo guy but i thing you need something like 2569 or GTX3071
Ibiza is doing 10.5s on GTX3071 on bmw turbo base

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GTX is not a VNT turbo.... Which rpm would it have turbo? too late ..... I think ....
Here in Portugal we have an PD engine (in a golf chassis) that makes 9.63s (is european diesel record)
But the turbo he uses is in the secret of the gods ... ahahah

Go dual stage turbocharging ...

Lucian189 said:

Go dual stage turbocharging ...

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How do that???

S200V with 52mm EFR compressor wheel.

Yucca said:

S200V with 52mm EFR compressor wheel.

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Can you explain me better??

Borg Warner S200V VNT Charger.

Original turbo is with 44.5 or 47mm compressor wheel.

EFR Billet Wheel size is 52/70mm and is good up to 56 lb/min!!!

Basically you need turbo that supports high pressure ratio with good flow. You need around 45lb/min airflow to reach 400hp with PR 4.5, that means about 3.5bar boost.
To be honest there are not that many good options out there for that. Like Yucca said EFR/SX-E 52.2/70 has quite good map up to PR5.

Yucca said:

Borg Warner S200V VNT Charger.

Original turbo is with 44.5 or 47mm compressor wheel.

EFR Billet Wheel size is 52/70mm and is good up to 56 lb/min!!!

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It's hard to find this turbo here in portugal ... have the serial number, so I look for it ??? Or in which vehicle does it come from?

diffas said:

Basically you need turbo that supports high pressure ratio with good flow. You need around 45lb/min airflow to reach 400hp with PR 4.5, that means about 3.5bar boost.
To be honest there are not that many good options out there for that. Like Yucca said EFR/SX-E 52.2/70 has quite good map up to PR5.

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In Portugal i never see EFR Billet Wheel...... In Portugal We use MFS billett whell but i think is the same... or very similar!!!???

Im have the s200v with 50/76 7+7 comp thats the OEM comp wheel with thise turbo Billet
Thanks to RUB87

mk1-83 said:

Im have the s200v with 50/76 7+7 comp thats the OEM comp wheel with thise turbo Billet
Thanks to RUB87

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Can you tell me in which vehicle / tractor this turbo belongs ???
Or a bw oem number...
i cant find it....???

S200V with bigger compressor wheel is from John Deere 6.8liter engine.

DCautosport said:

In Portugal i never see EFR Billet Wheel...... In Portugal We use MFS billett whell but i think is the same... or very similar!!!???

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Mfs stands for machined from solid, its the same as billet. Efr is borgwarners brand for hi-tech racing turbos

DCautosport said:

Thanks... but let me see another alternatives.... because after 4000rpm.... is too late.... i think somethink around 3000rpm is good... but 4000rpm...... hum... i think is too late....

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good luck keeping the head on the block, seems everyone making 3-400 is running theirs past 5k rpm

ryanp said:

to get a true 400hp you need S300v, i have 6 in stock

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Tractor turbo?

Starting to believe that biturbo is the best way to go if you have the money and knowledge , Fins are working on it i heard, we'll see how it goes.

Macradiators.com said:

Starting to believe that biturbo is the best way to go if you have the money and knowledge , Fins are working on it i heard, we'll see how it goes.

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why not a R2s or R3s turbo set up?

Turbo Z said:

why not a R2s or R3s turbo set up?

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R2s or R3s ??? What turbos is this???

DCautosport said:

R2s or R3s ??? What turbos is this???

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You dont have Google in portugal?

Very interesting but who has the courage and knowledge to start on this journey ?

well I am a little bit confused why it has not been more explored, most challenging is to find information on combos but even physical placement can give you headache depending of choice. of some reason we have very little information on R2s/R3s or Garrett equivalent in sticky: turbo technical database here on tdi club

It is much easier to brake 400bhp barrier with single turbo. Look what Darkside do with Arosa, no compound setup.

we had 400hp+ with compound setup but it was a PITA and not required for drag racing

well the best turbo for you its a GTB22 from BMW (from 245hp engine). Turbo in stock condition its capable of making near 340hp, with billett compressor you can aim 400+ . Spool and top power depending on the type of exhaust manifold you gonna choose [cast, log stainless, proper tubular -> https://www.facebook.com/BizonGarage/videos/982992941830901/ ]

Or not.

Yucca said:

It is much easier to brake 400bhp barrier with single turbo. Look what Darkside do with Arosa, no compound setup.

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may I ask if you have been driven a BMW 535d and 550d?
what did you think about response from bottom?
do you have the same response for your high hp car?

There are not that many 600+hp beemers here, so I don't think so. Somewhat I feel that there will be lack of transient response on lower revs also at that tune level.

No and no.

I was talking max hp only, not response etc.

Sure sequential or compound turbo setup have very nice responce. Those setups are also too hard to build by beginners.