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Old September 16th, 2002, 08:50   #1
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Default Bush: "Reduce dependence on foreign crude oil."

He just said this live in a speech.

Why am I sure that he's not talking about biodiesel, ethanol and fuel cell technology?

Why do I get the feeling he's talking about drilling in Alaska instead? [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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Old September 16th, 2002, 09:16   #2
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It`s all about continueing the addiction via our own rude crude or someone`s we will be hated by somewhere down the road. This guy and his cronies not going to take even the most rudimentay steps required to break the bond between petroleum and our most pressing problems, it`s just not coming outta this administration, period, end of story.
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Old September 16th, 2002, 09:32   #3
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maybe we should Grow our own!!! (Bio/diesel) [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Old September 16th, 2002, 17:55   #4
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It`s all about continueing the addiction via our own rude crude or someone`s we will be hated by somewhere down the road. This guy and his cronies not going to take even the most rudimentay steps required to break the bond between petroleum and our most pressing problems, it`s just not coming outta this administration, period, end of story.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Funny how Clinton and his cronies didn't do anything either [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] but all the tree-huggers in the US still voted for them [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

I would rather have American jobs created drilling in Alaska then sending all our money overseas!!!
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Old September 17th, 2002, 01:12   #5
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RC:
It`s all about continueing the addiction via our own rude crude or someone`s we will be hated by somewhere down the road. This guy and his cronies not going to take even the most rudimentay steps required to break the bond between petroleum and our most pressing problems, it`s just not coming outta this administration, period, end of story.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Funny how Clinton and his cronies didn't do anything either [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] but all the tree-huggers in the US still voted for them [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

I would rather have American jobs created drilling in Alaska then sending all our money overseas!!!
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">davidbru,
You need to educate yourself on a few issues here before you speak my friend. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

First off, I didn`t vote for Clinton, nor Gore, and you are correct, they didn`t do a damn thing about our energy situation, although I believe Gore would have done more than any other before him.

And look deeply into the Alaskan petroleum situation, you`ll find there isn`t much salvation to be had there, even BP has made a statement about such a folley. There are much better ways to employ Americans in the energy sector and much more energy to be had elsewhere than is in our 49th state.
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Old September 17th, 2002, 01:24   #6
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Default Re: Bush: "Reduce dependence on foreign crude oil."

Moderator, just a suggestion to move this to the general discussion area, this thread really doesn't have anything to do with fuels and lubricants specific to a TDI but is merely another potential political flame war, which may have its merits, but does not belong here. Long live Ross Perot
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Old September 17th, 2002, 05:34   #7
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although I believe Gore would have done more than any other before him.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All Gore would have done is give lipservice to the issue. Democrats are good at "owning" issues but not fixing them.
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Old September 17th, 2002, 05:45   #8
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Democrats are good at "owning" issues but not fixing them.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well... If they actually fixed the problems... then they wouldn't have the doom-and-gloom platform to run from anymore. You can't really blame them... it's good job security.

What is entertaining to me, is the Impunity with which these opinions are stated as fact... And the absolute shock expressed when someone has the audacity to disagree.
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Old September 17th, 2002, 07:19   #9
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The only things politians do is fix their own wallets! Doesn't matter which party!!!
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Old September 17th, 2002, 07:48   #10
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are we really clever enough to have a statgy to use up all of their oil first????

NOOOOOOOOO!!!! politicians arent smart,, just greedy and power hungry..
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Old September 17th, 2002, 13:18   #11
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Pseudobrit:

Why do I get the feeling he's talking about drilling in Alaska instead? [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cuz Bush is a moron ? Yeah, I know ...he's an MBA from Harvard.......riiiiiiighhhhhhtttttt! [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, he's a Yale man. Gore was at Harvard. And Bush had a C average. I wish I could say I had a C at Yale, can you?
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Old September 17th, 2002, 14:36   #12
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One of my biggest peeves, is when people say that GW is stupid. Fact is... he's smarter than any one of those rhetoric spewers.

What do you want? Someone who tells you what you want to hear, but's lying the whole time?
Or, someone who stumbles when relentlessly hounded, yet always tells the truth?

GW stoopid? Hardly.
Read This.
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Old September 17th, 2002, 14:54   #13
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Actually, he's a Yale man. Gore was at Harvard. And Bush had a C average. I wish I could say I had a C at Yale, can you?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bush was indeed at Yale, but he got his MBA from Harvard. I wouldn't have been accepted into either school, so I can't say as to whether I could've maintained a C average.

You don't think Dubya had any help gettin' in to Yale or Harvard, do you ? [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old September 17th, 2002, 15:01   #14
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At the moment we import almost 60% of all oil used in the US. I say it is time to reduce our dependance on foreign oil no matter how we have to do it. Be it drilling in Alaska or bombing Iraq and take over their oil wells. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Using BD is a good start, but AFAIK you still have to use petroleum oils to lubricate the motor.
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Old September 17th, 2002, 15:09   #15
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Using BD is a good start, but AFAIK you still have to use petroleum oils to lubricate the motor.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not true, ever heard of synthetic motor oil? I've also heard a few things about soy being used as a motor oil base stock. [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] Correct me if i'm wrong.
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