jerrymander
Veteran Member
Yep. Welcome to the new, improved mark 7 chassis!
I could barely break 500, but after I had Malone hammer some sense into the computer and lost some parts, I can get 600 mile tanks again.
Actual Purchases of 2015 Stop-Sale (NEW TDI's)
- Thread starter tonestar
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I could barely break 500, but after I had Malone hammer some sense into the computer and lost some parts, I can get 600 mile tanks again.
epssax
Veteran Member
I did.
I texted the sales lady. Her sales manager said for me to call the same 800 number. I don't want to put new brakes, new shocks, new hub bearings, output shaft bearings, and new tires on a new car!
kjclow
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- Joined
- Apr 26, 2003
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- Charlotte, NC
- TDI
- 2010 JSW TDI silver and black. 2017 Ram Ecodiesel dark red with brown and beige interior.
Tires and brakes were some of the items they were supposed to inspect. Did you get the inspection list from them when you bought it?
KITEWAGON
Veteran Member
I just read something about VW forgetting to remove the shipping pucks. I'd poke your head up in the rear wheel wells and see if there are any plastic pucks sitting in your shocks.
Blue_Hen_TDI
Top Post Dawg
Haha, truth. This has been a prevalent issue in Mk7 GTI land. People join the GolkMk7 dot com forum and wonder why their GTI looks like a 4x4 and rides like a dump truck.
More info: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?6978296-Quick-Guide-to-Remove-Strut-Pucks#/topics/6978296
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15JettaSTDI
New member
Just bought a 2015 Jetta TDI S 6 spd for $14,500 with 28,300 miles.
Lightflyer1
Top Post Dawg
Wrong thread. This is for the new left over cars, not the used ones. There is a thread for that here too. Welcome to tdiclub!
epssax
Veteran Member
epssax
Veteran Member
Tires
The tires are Bridgestone Ecopia and I think they were manufactured 03/2016 reading the code on the sidewall. They transfer a LOT of road surface noise.
epssax
Veteran Member
Latest development on 2015 Tdi brake issue
Today VWofA was supposed to contact me regarding my call to them yesterday. They did NOT call. I also went to another dealer across town that I had bought two new loaded Subaru .outbacks for my wife. Asked the VW service dept. if they could replace brakes as it was 8 business days old. Their message to me was that the brakes are a wear item! So much for customer loyalty. Also, I emailed the Sales manager where I bought my car and got no response after explaining my brake problem. Pretty poor customer relations in my opinion.
Today VWofA was supposed to contact me regarding my call to them yesterday. They did NOT call. I also went to another dealer across town that I had bought two new loaded Subaru .outbacks for my wife. Asked the VW service dept. if they could replace brakes as it was 8 business days old. Their message to me was that the brakes are a wear item! So much for customer loyalty. Also, I emailed the Sales manager where I bought my car and got no response after explaining my brake problem. Pretty poor customer relations in my opinion.
epsaax,
I'd go back to the dealer and show them page 3 of the USA maintenance and warranty book. Coverage The repair or replacement of wear and tear items, which are defined as brake pads/shoes...and brake disks/drums...are covered up to one year or 12,000 miles, whichever occurs first. It also mentions wiper blade wear/tear. (note that it says brakes worn below mfr specs, but I'd argue loudly mfr specs are that they are not pitted/warped).
I successfully had my OH dealer replace front brake pads/rotors since they were warped. Brought the car in 2 weeks after my mid July purchase Showed them the TDI release-for-resale inspection bulletin which they acknowledged completing but they had found no problems in May, and just did the filters/fluids at the time.
Since the dealer certified to VW back in may that the brakes and wipers were good, it turns out they had backed themselves into a corner, and now VW made them pay the full cost of those parts and labor. They first tried to do just rotors but no pads but I wasn't having any of that. Once I showed them that VW themselves calls for rotors AND pads if the stop sale inspection process found bad rotors they gave in. I saw the internal invoice and those costs were billed to shop/sales cost, while a few other factory defect items did get parts/labor paid by VW.
Having leased 3 of these, I can tell you that dealers varies WIDELY as to the level of how they did the TDI stop sale service bulletin. One dealer told me point blank they replaced good tires/brakes/batteries on every single TDI (greedy or scamming VW?) Then reading the other service requests, one dealer left out the critical notes of what to DO and look/listen for on a road test. This led to a car wash/lot attendant/helper being told to basically zone out, crank up the radio, and drive 10 miles to 'test' the car.
If you take your VIN # to any VW service dept they can print you all service to date. You can verify the parts replaced, filters/oil etc used as part of the service bulletin. I even got a printout showing all the dates/mileage and bills to VW that they submitted for the 'every 30 day' start up and drive during the stop sale.
I'd go back to the dealer and show them page 3 of the USA maintenance and warranty book. Coverage The repair or replacement of wear and tear items, which are defined as brake pads/shoes...and brake disks/drums...are covered up to one year or 12,000 miles, whichever occurs first. It also mentions wiper blade wear/tear. (note that it says brakes worn below mfr specs, but I'd argue loudly mfr specs are that they are not pitted/warped).
I successfully had my OH dealer replace front brake pads/rotors since they were warped. Brought the car in 2 weeks after my mid July purchase Showed them the TDI release-for-resale inspection bulletin which they acknowledged completing but they had found no problems in May, and just did the filters/fluids at the time.
Since the dealer certified to VW back in may that the brakes and wipers were good, it turns out they had backed themselves into a corner, and now VW made them pay the full cost of those parts and labor. They first tried to do just rotors but no pads but I wasn't having any of that. Once I showed them that VW themselves calls for rotors AND pads if the stop sale inspection process found bad rotors they gave in. I saw the internal invoice and those costs were billed to shop/sales cost, while a few other factory defect items did get parts/labor paid by VW.
Having leased 3 of these, I can tell you that dealers varies WIDELY as to the level of how they did the TDI stop sale service bulletin. One dealer told me point blank they replaced good tires/brakes/batteries on every single TDI (greedy or scamming VW?) Then reading the other service requests, one dealer left out the critical notes of what to DO and look/listen for on a road test. This led to a car wash/lot attendant/helper being told to basically zone out, crank up the radio, and drive 10 miles to 'test' the car.
If you take your VIN # to any VW service dept they can print you all service to date. You can verify the parts replaced, filters/oil etc used as part of the service bulletin. I even got a printout showing all the dates/mileage and bills to VW that they submitted for the 'every 30 day' start up and drive during the stop sale.
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epssax
Veteran Member
Thanks
I printed that and will use it for my argument. Freds TDI has been a good resource for many years and MILLIONS of miles!
epssax
Veteran Member
News
VWofA called me yesterday and had some information. They contacted the dealer that refused to consider any other posture but that brakes were a wear item on a brand new car. After I made my argument, the caller said they would further talk to the dealer and get back with me. I was on the golf course and was about ready to hit my 5 wood 195 yards onto the green(came up one yard short).
pkhoury
That guy with the goats
Which is one of the motivations my mother had when deciding to purchase her 2015. She loved her Toyota 4Runner, but I don't know - it's looking like she's really loving her TDI even more. She loves the torque, and she already has the 2005 that I bought and fixed up for her.
From my experience, some specialty cars (some hybrids, certain enthusiast cars) and all diesels hold their value good over long terms. The biggest hits in depreciation, all from anecdotal experience anyways, seem to be the domestic manufacturers and luxury cars.
pkhoury
That guy with the goats
I personally think both threads should be combined, especially since I haven't seen any dealers in Texas selling new stop-sale 2015 TDI wagons...
pkhoury
That guy with the goats
From my experience on my 2010, I've run it where it said 0 miles to empty maybe 3 times (when I was about 3 miles from a fuel station). Upon filling up and topping off to the neck (road trip, so no worries about fuel expansion while sitting in the heat), it had about 0.25-0.5 gallons left. Not much of a reserve, but it's something.Did this tonight:
I suspected the gauge hit empty early, so I was able to drive around a bit before bringing it home with 0 remaining (I fuel at my house). Put in 12.3 gallons. So there was still .9 gallons left in the tank. I probably won't make a habit of it, but it's good to know that I can run it to 0 without issue if I'm in a bind.
Are the tanks on the newer TDIs smaller, or the same 15.5 gallons when topped off?
IndigoBlueWagon
TDIClub Enthusiast, Principal IDParts, Vendor , w/
New GSWs are 13.2 gallons. And I've recently read that I can adjust when the reserve light comes on with VCDS. I think I'll do it so when it gets to zero it's closer to empty. That's better than the anxiety of driving through the entire reserve every tank.
Blue_Hen_TDI
Top Post Dawg
patter98
Veteran Member
Picked up a 2015 Jetta TDI SEL W/Driver Assistance Pkg - Brown - 24K miles CPO for $17,999 this week.
This will replace my 2015 Jetta TDI SEL that was totaled this last winter. I got ~$23K for that from Insurance plus the VW Restitution money so I am pretty happy I was able to get back into a 2015 model for ~$5k less than what was paid out to me by insurance 9 months ago.
This will replace my 2015 Jetta TDI SEL that was totaled this last winter. I got ~$23K for that from Insurance plus the VW Restitution money so I am pretty happy I was able to get back into a 2015 model for ~$5k less than what was paid out to me by insurance 9 months ago.
wetskier2000
Veteran Member
test fit the new TireRack winter 15" wheels with the 2005's Blizzaks.. A little weird but that'll do..
wetskier2000
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epssax
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Not Today
VWofA didn't call today. I drove it today and had to do a hard braking today and its getting worse. Repeated it(on purpose) and now all four rotors appear warped! I'm, not going to accept it! I hope I don't have to do it myself. We downsized 18 months ago and all my tools, jacks, lights, air compressors, and shop equipment are GONE. That's why I bought this new car so I wouldn't have to work on them
surfstar
Veteran Member
I knew this was around somewhere:
This should have been done for any stop-sale TDIs.
I would argue that your car should be given the same treatment.
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epssax
Veteran Member
pkhoury
That guy with the goats
Does stop-sale imply vehicles with low (or no) miles, CPO, or both? I felt like the brakes felt a little funny on mom's car as well when she did the test drive. Thankfully, changing pads and rotors isn't that difficult (done it on the other 3 TDIs within the past 12 months).
IndigoBlueWagon
TDIClub Enthusiast, Principal IDParts, Vendor , w/
Replacing tires and brakes if necessary was for cars that were never titled. However, I would expect that dealers would do same for bought back cars to be sure they qualify as CPO. But maybe not.
epssax
Veteran Member
Found the warranty
I found this warranty in my glove box. Will try to get dealer to fix under the 12000 miles bumper to bumper. Also will try to get a printout of the previous service. It also states that any authorized VW dealer service dept. can do the work.
Mrrogers1
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- Joined
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- Location
- Omaha NEEEBRASKA
- TDI
- 2011 Golf TDI 6MT, 2011 Jetta TDI DSG, 2015 Golf Sportwagen S TDI DSG
Where did you get that document from? I checked all my papers and I don't have that one... my car had 80 miles on it and it was driven and serviced monthly BUT I'm sure the service wasn't oil changes. I bought my car off the show room floor so I know it didn't have oil changed, at least as part of delivery. I want to talk to the dealer about documentation of the oil changes while they were diligently taking care of my car while it couldn't be sold.
surfstar
Veteran Member
this post: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.php?p=5274190&postcount=998
I remember seeing another document showing all the things that should be checked and might need servicing prior to reselling the NOS TDIs. Can't find it easily, though.
Mrrogers1
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Jun 25, 2006
- Location
- Omaha NEEEBRASKA
- TDI
- 2011 Golf TDI 6MT, 2011 Jetta TDI DSG, 2015 Golf Sportwagen S TDI DSG
Thank you, I will start with detailed service log of work done so far and will go from there. I wish we knew were the original document came from.
EDIT UPDATE: I had my records pulled and can see the monthly driving and fluid check services. I can also see the full service and oil change 2 months and 13 miles before I bought my car so I'm not going to sweat the fact it wasn't done right before I bought it. She was well taken care of during the stay a the one and only dealership she ever knew. :-D The dealer did not take on ANY stop sale cars from other dealerships as they religiously maintained their cars and did not want to inherit any neglected TDI's and their costly problems that needed attention before selling.
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