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Old April 1st, 2018, 17:34   #1
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hey guys and gals!

I had a question - I know at some point I asked about 0W oils but

I came across accidently that the Mobil 1 ESP both 5W-30 and 0W-30 have listings for the Volkswagen 504 00/507 00 spec on it

would I be able to pour in the 0W-30 in a TDI and have it run or would it just burn up b since its thin

thanks!

https://mobiloil.com/en/motor-oils/mobil-1/mobil-1-esp
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Old April 1st, 2018, 17:41   #2
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It is just thinner on the cold side of things so it will circulate better on cold startup.
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Old April 1st, 2018, 18:25   #3
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That's great to hear that Mobil 0W-30 is also VW 504/507 approved. It is a great oil to go head-to-head with the Amsoil European Car Formula 5W-30 Improved ESP!
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Old April 1st, 2018, 21:51   #4
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That's great to hear that Mobil 0W-30 is also VW 504/507 approved. It is a great oil to go head-to-head with the Amsoil European Car Formula 5W-30 Improved ESP!

I thought so! I mean I like Amsoil but I trust Mobil Oils more, especially in my VWs
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Old April 1st, 2018, 21:53   #5
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It is just thinner on the cold side of things so it will circulate better on cold startup.
I just wasn't sure if it would be okay to use in, say the V6 TDIs
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Old April 1st, 2018, 22:34   #6
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I thought so! I mean I like Amsoil but I trust Mobil Oils more, especially in my VWs
That's great too.

Interesting enough, somebody did some digging and found out the supplier of the base oils Amsoil uses: Mobil :-)))
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Old April 2nd, 2018, 06:20   #7
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would I be able to pour in the 0W-30 in a TDI and have it run or would it just burn up b since its thin
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This makes no sense. It's a 30 weight oil, as indicated by the number after the hyphen. It is in no sense a "thin" oil. Expressed in a sentence, it would be "A 0W-30 oil is a 30 weight oil that flows like a 0 weight oil."
The web site BITOG (Bob Is The Oil Guy) has some good tutorials on lubricants, in addition to their forums. I specifically recommend "Motor Oil University."

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/motor-oil-101/
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Old April 2nd, 2018, 08:44   #8
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This makes no sense. It's a 30 weight oil, as indicated by the number after the hyphen. It is in no sense a "thin" oil. Expressed in a sentence, it would be "A 0W-30 oil is a 30 weight oil that flows like a 0 weight oil."
The web site BITOG (Bob Is The Oil Guy) has some good tutorials on lubricants, in addition to their forums. I specifically recommend "Motor Oil University."
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/motor-oil-101/

and I get that part.. what I'm saying is - would it be too thin in a diesel engine

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That's great too.
Interesting enough, somebody did some digging and found out the supplier of the base oils Amsoil uses: Mobil :-)))
hahahaha that's ****ing awesome.
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and I get that part.. what I'm saying is - would it be too thin in a diesel engine
It has a High temperature high shear (HTHS) viscosity of 3.5 which is what you want at a minimum in these types of engines. For Pumpe Dude engines there is a school of thought that you need a higher HTHS, something at a minimum around 3.8.

The fact that this Mobil 1 507 oil had a viscosity index (VI) of 180 is a plus definitively. If you want to get deeper into the pluses and minuses you can try to find out also the NOACK volatility percentage (lower better). I do not think Mobil publishes this value (Amsoil does) but you can go to www.pqiamerica.com or www.oil-club.ru (use Google Translate) to see if you can find it.
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Mobil 1 ESP seems to be pretty good stuff. My ML350 uses that... 9 quarts of it per oil change.... pricey oil changes, to say the least.
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Mobil often has their rebate program in effect. $12/5 qts up to $24/10 qts. Local fleet store sells it for $6.49 so the rebate brings it down to about $4/qt.
They sell the awesome DelVac 1 ESP 5w-40 (which I much prefer over a 0w) for $25/gallon which gets a $12/gal rebate making it a great buy. It goes in the TDI and the Honda ST1300 motorcycle and has had great UOA from Blackstone labs.
The current rebate form says for purchases 3/1 thru 12/31/18!!
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I use the 0-30 in the winter and the 5-30 in the summer. Thou I'm not sure its worth the flip-flop.
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Mobil 1 ESP seems to be pretty good stuff. My ML350 uses that... 9 quarts of it per oil change.... pricey oil changes, to say the least.

9 isn't bad though for that.... it can get pricey, no doubt
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Mobil often has their rebate program in effect. $12/5 qts up to $24/10 qts. Local fleet store sells it for $6.49 so the rebate brings it down to about $4/qt.
They sell the awesome DelVac 1 ESP 5w-40 (which I much prefer over a 0w) for $25/gallon which gets a $12/gal rebate making it a great buy. It goes in the TDI and the Honda ST1300 motorcycle and has had great UOA from Blackstone labs.
The current rebate form says for purchases 3/1 thru 12/31/18!!

that's not a bad deal.

what TDI do you that you have?
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