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Old September 11th, 2018, 21:13   #1
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Default BMW Dropping Diesels For Plug-in Hybrids

In the USA, so far.
https://www.greencarreports.com/news...lug-in-hybrids
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Old September 12th, 2018, 10:40   #2
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Old September 12th, 2018, 12:40   #3
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Old September 12th, 2018, 13:45   #4
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Apparently, BMW hasn't made a final decision on the X5 yet:


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UPDATE: BMW has clarified its statement to Green Car Reports in an email. "The final decision as to whether or not the BMW X5 diesel variant will come to the U.S. market has not been made. BMW of North America continues to monitor customer preferences and is prepared to adjust the product portfolio accordingly."...
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Old September 12th, 2018, 14:36   #5
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BMW's business decision to discontinue offering diesels in the USA caused me to make a business decision too: I won't be returning to BMW as a customer when it eventually comes time to replace my 535d and/or my X5 35d. Both cars are long term keepers.




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Old September 12th, 2018, 16:57   #6
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Apparently, BMW hasn't made a final decision on the X5 yet:




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Did you happen to notice the last name of the BMW spokesman is Schmuck? Coincidence?
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Old September 12th, 2018, 17:10   #7
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BMW's business decision to discontinue offering diesels in the USA caused me to make a business decision too: I won't be returning to BMW as a customer when it eventually comes time to replace my 535d and/or my X5 35d. Both cars are long term keepers.




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No offence, this is flawed logic. BMW, like everybody else, is realizing that diesel is dead in North America... Hell, diesel is slowly on its way out in Europe.

I love diesel and I'd love to be able to own a newer one in the future, but I know it's very unlikely that it's going to happen. Do I think they should be discontinued? Absolutely not...

A handful of enthusiasts like us won't keep the diesel market afloat... So saying that you won't return to BMW because they made the logical decision to discontinue a dying product makes no sense

By the way, if you plan on keeping your BMW diesels for the next 10 years, I doubt you'll even be able to buy a passanger diesel car by that point
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Old September 12th, 2018, 17:31   #9
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No offence, this is flawed logic. BMW, like everybody else, is realizing that diesel is dead in North America... Hell, diesel is slowly on its way out in Europe.
nope, they've just realized that offering diesels will put them at increased risk of litigation because people are stupid

nobody wants to get life in prison over some overhyped baloney the news decided to latch on and run with
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nope, they've just realized that offering diesels will put them at increased risk of litigation because people are stupid
nobody wants to get life in prison over some overhyped baloney the news decided to latch on and run with
Ding ding!^^^


I also feel that the US has "demonized" diesels as a whole...
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nope, they've just realized that offering diesels will put them at increased risk of litigation because people are stupid
nobody wants to get life in prison over some overhyped baloney the news decided to latch on and run with
What? You make it sound as if the whole dieselgate thing was faked because people are stupid and wanted to find something to blame vw about
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Ding ding!^^^
I also feel that the US has "demonized" diesels as a whole...
Yes they have, partly for the wrong reasons and partly because a bunch of people screwed up at VW. Let's not point fingers at just one group
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Global warming agenda needs to eliminate internal combustion engine. Can't call it ICE anymore.
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Old September 12th, 2018, 22:26   #15
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What? You make it sound as if the whole dieselgate thing was faked because people are stupid and wanted to find something to blame vw about
What else was in the news at the same time?
Political bull****.

How much coverage did it get when it came out that every other manufacturer had similar out of range operating conditions that the ECUs were not mapped to deal with?
None.
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