flyboy320
Veteran Member
Here is a reply from a tank driver here in Ontario about carrying RUG and diesel in the same tanker between loads.
In switch loading even if there is RUG in the tanker, you still need an ignition source. Static discharge of mixing and flowing fuel is a well known phenomenon. Lowering the initial flow rate of ULSD into the tanker limits the build up of voltage potential as the ULSD is pumped in. My guess is most terminal operations have detection devices to keep the potential builup of the flowing ULSD below the threshold of static discharge by adjusting flow rate.Here is a reply from a tank driver here in Ontario about carrying RUG and diesel in the same tanker between loads.
One percent or less of gasoline will lower the flash point of a gasoline/diesel fuel blend below the specification minimum for diesel fuel. This will not affect the fuel’s engine performance, but it will make the fuel more hazardous to handle. Larger amounts of gasoline will lower the viscosity and/or cetane number of the blend below the specification minimums for diesel fuel. These changes can degrade combustion and increase wear.
I worked on projects in two Chevron terminals and three Murphy terminals within the last few years. All five had third party lubricity additive systems and tank trucks had separate compartments for D2 & gasoline. I can't speculate on how the service stations handle incoming product with respect to contamination safeguards.I may be wrong & you certainly are likely to know better than I....but....when I ran a filling station (a million years ago) the tankers were 3 compartments w/ 3,000+ gallons each (just under 10K total). If you needed more than of a specific grade they just used more than one tank. Never had the same truck deliver diesel & gas - always separate. Mistakes happen but by & large they were pretty careful about mixing (even fuel grades). Aren't most tanks still color coded (the lids in the station area are painted)?
Well said..This^^
Diesel's dirty little secret is the non-existent controls on the fuel distribution side. The best diesel on the planet can be ruined by one inattentive truck driver.
I'm glad you like your car, but I feel that you are driving on borrowed time. The question is not if you will have a failure but when.There is so much absolute BS about the HPFP on this forum to border on insane. Do they happen? Sure they do.
But keep in mind that in almost every test of a TDI against any other model of VW the TDI wins hands down. I've yet to find a single magazine tester raise the issue of HPFP failures both here and overseas. Remember you have a very closed audience here. The NHTSA is investigating the HPFP issue. Been going on for well over a year while almost every other investigation has come and gone. They still have not issued a ruling and the longer it goes I believe the whole mess will be set aside and the world will move on.
Those who have had a failure in the past few months have had they car repaired free of charge (according to my dealer) with some of them having close to 100,000 miles.
Lots of opinions here with damn few facts.
Like the car? Buy it. I've never been happier with my TDI. I have a 2006 Lexus IS250 and it sits in the garage having only 33,000 miles while my 2010 TDI just whizzed past 40,000 miles last week. You do the math.
Seasons' greetings to all.
I may have one in a week or two.Right I know that but I am trying to point out in the end the Botch CP4.1 pump is a POS.
As a side note, I would absolutely love to get my hands on a failed CP4.1 to see what actually happens and figure out if maybe the pump can be modified to be stronger(ie steel sleeve).
Anybody have a failed HPFP they want to send my way? I'll pay you for shipping and time...
Fact: My HPFP failed. Fact: My car was in dealer to fix it four times for a total of 45 days in July thru October 2012. Fact: VoA denied me replacement of new fuel system when they first diagnosed my HPFP (with metal shard in filter too) preferring to only replace the pump at the initial failure, then only the fuel pump in the tank on third visit. On my car's fourth visit they only approved replacing the fuel rail. When the dealer took it out to test drive...the fuel rail failed. That finally prompted them to approve replacement the whole contaminated fuel system (which should have been done on day one of my HPFP failure). Fact: A very stressful and frustrating experience, especially worring about the safety issue and dealing with VoA customer 'uncaring' advocate.There is so much absolute BS about the HPFP on this forum to border on insane. Do they happen? Sure they do.
But keep in mind that in almost every test of a TDI against any other model of VW the TDI wins hands down. I've yet to find a single magazine tester raise the issue of HPFP failures both here and overseas. Remember you have a very closed audience here. The NHTSA is investigating the HPFP issue. Been going on for well over a year while almost every other investigation has come and gone. They still have not issued a ruling and the longer it goes I believe the whole mess will be set aside and the world will move on.
Those who have had a failure in the past few months have had they car repaired free of charge (according to my dealer) with some of them having close to 100,000 miles.
Lots of opinions here with damn few facts.
Like the car? Buy it. I've never been happier with my TDI. I have a 2006 Lexus IS250 and it sits in the garage having only 33,000 miles while my 2010 TDI just whizzed past 40,000 miles last week. You do the math.
Seasons' greetings to all.
never going to happen to gtidan!fact: My hpfp failed.
Hope it doesn't happen to you gtidan.
When it happens to him, he certainly won't tell us about it!never going to happen to gtidan!
So they found gasoline contamination in 800 cars.Well yes kind of. They did test over 800 cars fuel. Plus they used to do the infamous Styrofoam cup test.
Spoon feed...Can you give me a link to this 800 fuel tank study?
never going to happen to gtidan!
LOL! Yeah, I sorta figured that one out already.When it happens to him, he certainly won't tell us about it!
Why are most of these dealers in California???