I understand how it can be an advantage with tight spaces, but you still have to place your heat exchanger somewhere.
Yes it does because the radiator that is cooling the water has a fan or two running the entire time. So air flow is provided, justifying my reasoning.
Yes... but is it worth it? I say no. If your going bigger turbo, it is a wise decision to invest in a good FMIC.
Installing fans is viable for either, and a FMIC is already taking advantage of the radiator fans. Where would you mount the heat exchanger/fan for an air/water/air on a Beetle anyway?
I never said anything about a beetle, but a golf.
Show me a picture of your install with bumper off and on. I was not satisfied with a FMIC 2.5" thick 7" tall intercooler fitting. I was not willing to trim the crash bar to make it fit. Ton of triming does not represent bumper fitting spot on. I bet you trimmed so much of the bumper your grills did not want to stay in. I WAS not willing to trim anything on this bumper. Water to air was perfect solution. I am not blowing it out of proportions. You can not beat the stock look of this car with a FMIC.Kasper, I think you're throwing the Golf fitment issues a little out of proportion. Yes, it's a little tighter than MKIV Jetta's for some reason, but I have a 7" (I think) tall FMIC bolted under the crash bar. Grills fit, bumper fits spot on. Required a TON of trimming, no doubt, but it doesn't scream "non stock". I might put a 24x11x3 core under there too just to be difficult
I will say it one more last time. Dream on. Even if you do it, you wont ever admit to your budget overrun. Plus your missing parts in your kit because you failed to read this read. You under estimated the cost of tubing and other factors I will let you figure out on your own. Have fun wasting your money. Cheers.
Just because "you have done it" doesn't mean that other guys cant do it cheaper or different.
For AUDI 13 diesel I choose a internal heat exchanger with this new copper tube -
As you can see there is a new way to do a intercooler inside a 76mm tube and the best is to bend that tubes together with copper heat exchanger. Invisible high efficient water/air intercooler.
Clearly you've never done it either because you don't have a clue what you're saying.
That is mostly false information. The "short bursts" you're thinking of apply only to ice based coolers (used by drag racers/sled pullers). Radiator cooled systems are like air-air systems, there is no limit to their cooling time.
Thats exactly why I chose it. My car didn't come with any intercooler and mounting an air-air would have required body modifications or excessively long ducting. This didn't.
Please troll a different thread. You don't have the slightest understanding what you're talking about. Leave the discussion to people that have actual knowledge on the subject.
Invisible, yes. High efficient, not even remotely with such low coil density, low surface area and low turbulence. Its better than nothing, but an effective intercooler its not.
Not at all.
Thats what windows are for. When its hot in Denver its rarely warmer than 70 above 8000ft, even in July. Mt. Evans, for example, the hottest temperature ever recorded is only 65*f. Its a great place to escape the heat of the foothills/plains and there is gobs to do in the summer.
I never suggested that cannibalizing the A/C was the only or best option. I used the condenser because it was there, free and effective. I could easily improve cooling even further by replacing it with an actual designed-for-water radiator, but it works great as-is so why bother?
Let me repeat myself from my last post, just for you.
Its known as utilizing your resources. Some people only have eBay, some have junkyards and some farm the job out to a shop. Farming it out isn't fun or respectable, but however it gets done don't change how the system works.
Uhh... I have a FMIC on my Mk4 Golf with a stock Euro bumper. The only visible "mod" to the bumper is that it doesn't have the three black plastic vent pieces. But those could be fitted with some cutting, and would probably be un-noticeable from stock, especially if I were to paint the intercooler.
The parts and costs in bold would be used in an air to air FMIC and the italicized parts are available to me for free/so cheap its not worth mentioning. I underlined parts that are just not necessary.
Sorry, I gave him the idea in the first place and yes, I am little ashamedYou should be ashamed of yourself, see what you started!
Who's chopping up a bumper? I said you could trim the inside of the vent pieces if you want to keep them, in which case the fronts of the vents would be untouched and the bumper would look 100% stock.
My guess is that most people are either unaware of the option (I know I wasn't until this thread) or think it is too complicated/expensive to implement.
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Car makes 190 whp, but does not look it like!
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