New TDIClub Wiki!

schwechel

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Hello everyone, I just wanted to announce the creation of the TDIClub Wiki! I created this because of a local GTG we are having in Wisconsin. I figured it would be an easy way to organize all of the information for the GTG and also for people to sign up for various parts of the GTG. This might have use beyond just organizing GTGs, but I haven't thought of any yet. You can go to the wiki page and create your own subpages for any reason that you want. Or if you want me to create some pages for you that is fine as well. We do have a GTG template that you can use to help set up any GTGs that might be going on. I did get the "OK" from Fred to use TDIClub in the name, and he is all for this idea. So let me know what you think about it and if you know of any other ways this Wiki page could be used.

http://tdiclub.wetpaint.com

Derek
 

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Thanks for spamming this post in like... 10 different forums. Simply posting once in Web Page News would have sufficed. :rolleyes:
 

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what the....???

woah -- hold on there! :eek: why did you post this in like... 10 forums? you actually even missed the one forum this would apply to - midwest USA!! dude, what's going on??? :confused:
 
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schwechel

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Well not everyone checks every forum, so I was going to post it in all of the individual ones. Thanks for the support!
 

schwechel

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I posted this in a bunch of forums because not everyone checks every forum, so I wanted to make sure people heard about it. And I put posts in the individual GTG threads in the Midwest forum. But thanks for the support!
 

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It is considered bad etiquette to cross-post the same thread across multiple forums. I have collected and pruned all threads (11 of them) into this one here. Please don't do it again.
 

schwechel

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But that doesn't make any sense. I doubt anyone will even looks at this forum, much less people trying to organize GTGs, which is the whole point behind this Wiki.
 

schwechel

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This is what I'm talking about. We have these great resources that no one knows about. If they were properly shown to the community, then they could be utilized. I don't even know if Fred knows about that Wiki, because when I proposed the idea to him he thought it would be very useful. I would think if he already knew of a wiki page that he would have told me one already existed.
 

TDIMeister

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I give you the full benefit of the doubt that you have good intentions and thank you for your efforts. However, there are better methods to make your Events Wiki more visible to a the forum members than cross-posting threads in 11 forums, and then posting amost half-a-dozen more posts embedded into other existing threads. Again, DO NOT DO THIS!!!

In the first place, if one single thread were posted here with a note to Fred, he might decide to make it a forum-wide announcement. But instead you made it (perhaps unknowingly and untentionally, but still) a waste of bandwidth and a big clean-up job.
 

schwechel

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If you know of better options I would love to hear them and try them. But simply posting it once in this forum that has nothing to do with the Wiki's intented use makes no sense to me. I'm open to other options, but since no one is suggesting any other alternatives, I'm trying to get the word out the best I can. And I doubt Fred is going to do a forum wide announcement.

Here is the response I got from Fred:

I think something like that is a good idea. Taking it a step further I wonder if
it could be levereged for other groups and making the organizing of GTGs easier.
If it works I'm willing to migrate that into the actual TDIClub site, host it
and tie it into the calendar somehow.

Fred
So he knows about the site and thinks it is a good idea. If he wanted to do a forum wide announcement he would have. Again, I'm open to any other options you can present to me, but so far all anyone has done is say "stop posting about the wiki".
 

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The point is, #1, you've been beaten to the punch, and #2, you were SPAMMING.
 

schwechel

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My response is #1, the other wiki doesn't do what this wiki does. It basically reposted the TDI FAQ into a wiki page. This one is to organize GTGs, and #2, if I can only post in one thread how am I supposed to get the word out? I agree spamming is bad, but there is a difference. If I was posting about a company I own, or how I was selling the greatest phone ever for only $9.99, that would be spam. It is only for personal gain and has nothing to do with the site. I posted it in approriate forums, and I don't make a penny off of this site. I'm putting my own time into it to try and help the community. So I don't think this qualifies as spamming.

Why is everyone so narrow minded and against change?
 

bhtooefr

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First off... what. exactly. is. the. point. of. a. GTG. wiki. A forum is IDEAL for GTG discussion, especially if the OP edits the first post.

Second... I would advise you to look up the definition for spam. Actually, no, I'll do it for you. Since you appear to have such a hard-on for using wikis where they're not supposed to be used, I'll give you Wiktionary's definition.

(countable noun) An unsolicited electronic message sent in bulk, e.g. by email or newsgroups.
That doesn't rule out messages that aren't advertising a product for sale, or a service.
 

schwechel

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GCMarx,

I wouldn't have a problem with combining them both into one good wiki. The only problem is that no one knows about the advantages that a wiki like this can provide.

bhtooefr,

I think it's ironic that you use a wiki page for your research. Wikis, like wikipedia, aren't very helpful because anyone can make up a definition and post it on the internet for people to read and believe. I would use a site like http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/spam where they have a reputable source for their information. There are many different definitions for spam, and yes this one suits my needs, but the general idea of spam is unsolicited bulk messages. I think we can both agree on this. I even agree that forums are ideal for GTG discussion. They just aren't the best for ORGANIZING a GTG. Please read my responses. I'm not sure what button of yours I have pushed, but you need to calm down.

I'm not saying wikis are the best thing ever and we should all use them because they will make our lives better. I'm simply trying to convey that they can be used quite effectively to help organize GTGs. Why should we have to rely on one person to continually update the same post to keep the GTG organized?

Here is a link to all of the recent GTG threads. How many keep the first post updated?

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=133502
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=150640
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=168925
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=162314
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=163556
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=169973
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=167576
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=167973
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=169728
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=162313
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=155735
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=167143
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=169545
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=169546

Some of these GTGs have info posted in multiple threads in multiple forums....so is this considered spam?

P.S. You can post all the negative comments you want in the wiki page.
 
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Dude, post your GTG discussions on the wiki and let the "market" vote as to whether it's a good idea or not.

Both of you crazy kids need to take the discussion down a notch.
 

schwechel

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The wiki is not for discussion. It's for organizing. If we post the GTG discussions on it, it will be useless because it will be repeating the same info. I like the idea of letting the "market" vote as to whether it is a good idea or not, but since no one (except a few in my local threads) knows about it, they won't see the advantages. That's why I want people to try it before they condemn/embrace it.
 

bhtooefr

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schwechel said:
I think it's ironic that you use a wiki page for your research.
*whoosh*

That was the sound of my post going over your head.

Read what I said again.

bhtooefr said:
Since you appear to have such a hard-on for using wikis where they're not supposed to be used, I'll give you Wiktionary's definition.
 

schwechel

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Whatever you say buddy, I'm done with you.

I'm only going to converse with someone who will talk inteligently about this because I am getting dragged down to their immaturatity (as pointed out by GCMarx). Thanks for pointing that out because this quickly turned into a VWVortex type conversation which I should never have gotten into. It just bugs me when people judge something before they try it or understand it. Sorry about that.
 
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bhtooefr

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Umm... I did understand it.

I just realized that it's a fantastically bad idea.

Also, a suggestion... the wiki site you're using isn't standards compliant. A wiki that only works properly in IE or Firefox is a bad idea. ;) Some of us use other browsers.
 

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schwechel said:
I like the idea of letting the "market" vote as to whether it is a good idea or not, but since no one (except a few in my local threads) knows about it, they won't see the advantages. That's why I want people to try it before they condemn/embrace it.
You are being condemned for your rudeness and disrespect. I'm also condemning you for your utterly ridiculous insistence that your behavior was justified.

I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but it doesn't seem like you're understanding what's going on when it's phrased more politely.

It's not a bad idea, you're just disseminating it in the worst way possible.
 

bhtooefr

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Oh, and if you want to promote it... this is the appropriate forum for it. If someone's interested, they can look down here.

You can also add it to your sig, if you so desire. But, posting it in every GTG thread you can find... no.
 

schwechel

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I wasn't rude or disrespectful to anyone until I was wrongly accused of being a spammer.

I only posted in forums that dealt specifically with the topic of the wiki page. I don't consider this to be inappropriate. Even then, when those were removed, I posted in about three places that had upcoming GTGs and could use the page to help organize. If I can't tell anyone that there is a Wiki for them to use how is anyone going to find out about it and start using it?
 

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You made entirely too many posts. You can argue this point until your fingers fall off, but that's not going to change anyone's opinion. This is the appropriate forum for it. Dispite what you think, people do look in here.

Good luck.
 

schwechel

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I'm done with this thread. It's obvious that no one here understands what I'm trying to do. If you have anything constructive to say about the Wiki PM me, I would love to hear any suggestions. Or if you want, go to http://tdiclub.wetpaint.com and make comments there. Thanks for reading.
 

bhtooefr

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schwechel said:
You can post how much you like boys all day long on the wiki page. It's not going to bother me.
No, that'd be the #tdiclubchat Lavender Club, and I'm not a member of that. (There is a difference between having ACCESS to the Lavender Club, and actually being a member of it.)
 
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