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Upgrades (non TDI Engine related) The place of handling, lighting and other upgrades that do not relate to the performance or economy of the TDI engine. In other words upgrades to your TDI that don't fit into TDI Fuel Economy & TDI Engine Enhancements.Please note the Performance Disclaimer

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Old July 25th, 2017, 12:30   #451
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These are all great suggestions. Thank you!
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Old August 12th, 2017, 16:02   #452
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I am wondering if anyone has used moog springs in the last year?

all the previous catalog discussion about rock auto seems to not exist.

Im weary that the moogs will give any lift as no store (online) can confirm that these are for a wagon specifically. Will be checking locally soon.

moreover, I found two 2002 wagons at the local pick n pull one had 1.8t the other 2.0 and one had two silver and three green springs while the other had two brown and one green. I can't find any info about these.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 16:03   #453
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I asked about the three green two silver before and one person said "there is no reason to think they would not provide a lift" but there is no other conformation.

Id rather just buy new from IPD that guarantee 1.5' lift for $99 vs the 50$ its gonna cost at pick and pull on a Saturday with the blond working. lol
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Old August 12th, 2017, 20:27   #454
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I put MOOG VR6 springs - front & rear - on my Mk4 Jetta and I'm very happy with them. I got them from RA lat last year. My car definitely sits higher, but the OE springs were shot.

I posted pictures under the title of Desert Jetta reveal.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 21:39   #455
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Yes I have seen that. I think I might try and new moog springs in the 1 inch spacer
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Old November 17th, 2017, 17:34   #456
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Well, still researching , I'm a week away from going up , waiting on the front TC's in the mail. (Less than 100$ at FCP BTW)

Anyway, my research has led me to some interesting data
How to get spring rate WITH OUT a machine!

Here is the formula and an explanation

http://www.bluecoilspring.com/rate.htm

I believe it's accurate because two white and one green is 154 lbs (fronts) according to common data form vw gurus. And my calculations with fast measurements got me about 141.3lbs. Very close enough to say there's a small margin of error.

Maybe someone needs this? I wish I had those different color rear wagon springs I found and was wondering f about. I imagine th
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Old December 9th, 2017, 17:59   #457
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Ok, so I went up finally. Im up about 30" in the rear and 29.5 up front.


My rear end is making a metal on metal rattle. I don't think its shots toping out they are extended. Im damn frustrated. I don't wield nor do I have any friends who will help me.

A few weeks ago I found someone who said they were using a bilistean rear shock that was extended but was not designed for MK4's. Now I can't find it. I think (based on my internet search history) it might be BILSTEIN 33-230351

can anyone confirm this or has anyone read this?

http://pics.tdiclub.com/showphoto.ph...e=lift&cat=500

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Old December 12th, 2017, 06:28   #458
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Mine rattled when I put Moog wagon springs in also. Only the right side and I found after twisting it to match where the left was seated it quit.
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Old December 12th, 2017, 08:23   #459
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I took my shackles off and the problem is gone. Now the shocks are maxed out.
The tears a bit hop happy. I'm going to get wagon struts prolly koni reds . First I'll call IPD and ask for measurements of the various wagon struts they have. I want good travel on dirt FS and BLM roads
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So after reading this thread multiple times, I am at a loss of what to buy. I don't want to use spacers in the front if I can avoid it, so should I dish out the extra money for the Suplex VR6 front springs and the wagon rear springs? Granted the Suplex springs are almost three-times the cost of the "regular" VR6 front springs, but if I can get 1-1/2" without spacers and negatively affecting the alignment geometry, I can figure out the rear final height after the suspension settles, right? Thanks in advance.
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For what it's worth, there were spacers available from the factory, based on some of the parts diagrams that I've seen.
They were only around 10mm thick, but I suspect that it won't mess with the geometry all that much to use a larger one, as long as you align it after whatever work you do.
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Ride height changes geometry, whether it's achieved with or without spacers. MKIV cars will have less negative camber when raised. A 2" lift makes camber slightly positive on most cars. Not noticeable in normal driving, and won't have an impact on tire wear.
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IBW, thank you. So after my car gets lifted by a new set of springs, will that make it unable to get aligned to factory specs? I guess if it won't affect tire wear then it is a no-worry kind of thing?
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I asked about the three green two silver before and one person said "there is no reason to think they would not provide a lift" but there is no other conformation.

Id rather just buy new from IPD that guarantee 1.5' lift for $99 vs the 50$ its gonna cost at pick and pull on a Saturday with the blond working. lol
Who/where is IPD? The only IPD I saw is Volvo specific.
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Old February 22nd, 2018, 15:16   #465
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You can use jeep springs to get to 3"
Jk fronts up front
Xj fronts in the rear

I remember seeing most people using suplex fronts still needed to stack two 10mm spacers to get level with the rear towing springs.
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