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prodrive

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GTD17552vrk



MODEL YEAR ENGINE CODE HP CC FUEL MODEL PART NUMBER O.E.M. PART No.


Bmw X3d 2014 B47OL F25 187 2.0/4 D GTD1752VRK 819976-0012 8570082F



Anyone have more details on that turbo, looks interesting.:)


I was looking in bmw center andorra! Good turbo
 

Boyka

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Audi a4 avant 3.0 tdi Remap
What power would give a 1.9 TDI ARL?
Out of curiosity.:D
 
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kyssmarc

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Hi guys,what turbo model has the new 2.0 TDI 190 hp?sorry for my bad english.
thanks
Hi.

As far as I know, the new 2.0tdi engines with 190hp ( engine code: CNHA ) have borgwarner BV43D. This turbo is very new, it`s very hard to find. Another problem is that it`s only available for this engine integrated into the exhaust manifold.

I am curious about the performance of this turbo, it should make a fantastic upgrade for somebody who wants the best compromise between minimal lag and big power.
 
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rocco

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Thanks guys for the reply.
I 'm looking a turbo for a fiat 1.3 multijet engine and I want to make the best choice to have minimal lag and a lot of power over 200hp:D.
The Fiat 1.3 Multijet engine ( 1248cc ) is really small . The amount of smoke that it generated is very little .To Load a big turbo is very difficult.
In my country (Italy) is usually used a GTB1549v (2.0 Multijet 170hp) to make a lot of power 190-200hp ( at 2.5-2.8bar ) but it has much lag. it has full boost at 2800-3000rpms.
For an average power is usually used a GTB1446vz (1.6 Multijet 120 hp )to make normal power 135-145hp at 1.8-2.2 bar(depends of the boost) with minimal lag.
I'm looking for the latest generation of Garrett GTD series turbo's and I'm very interested in ceramic ball bearing turbo to reduce lag, for example GTD1752vrk of lastest 2.0bmw 190hp engine's. It is a wonderful turbo for big power but I do not know how much lag can make it.
Anyone knows a little more small ceramic ball bearing turbo's of GTD1752vrk? For example GTD15XXvrk,GTD14XXvrk?
The GTD1449vz of 2.0 tdi 184hp is not ceramic ball bearing and it is integrated into the exhaust manifold.
The borgwargner bv43d is ceramic ball bearing? It is only available integrated with the exhaust manifold?
Thanks
 

andy2

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Do you know if there are more differences between the pd 170 BV43 and the CR 170 BV43a ? I just fitted one to a 1.9 Tdi quattro audi a4 with AFN engine, had to swap both housings (hot/cold) as they are different. The only thing to note was the BV43a had billet alloy compressor wheel... Also the actuators/stop screws have different settings and the bv43a does not give me the kick in the back i am used to from the BV43, even with race 520 nozzles and ported head ! Should i try the BV43 actuator and stop screw ?
Did you end up getting to the bottom of this ? I've only had my hands on a BV43.Sorry for the late reply.
 

adamss24

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Did you end up getting to the bottom of this ? I've only had my hands on a BV43.Sorry for the late reply.
Ended up selling the turbo to a chap off another VAG Uk based forum, in the end he had it fitted and mapped by Darkside, results were about 180 Bhp on a AVF pd 130 audi a4 b6- a bit disappointing considering the bv43 does about 20 Bhp more !
 

adamss24

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billet wheel and 6+6 wheel. Possibly heavier.
I ve run bv43 and 0.341 nozzles and it was fun.
The bv43a may allow to inject more, bigger nozzles would seem to fit )
Bv43a is billet and has 2mm bigger inducer than Bv43b, still smaller than the bv43...
 

moivw

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Bv43a is billet and has 2mm bigger inducer than Bv43b, still smaller than the bv43...
I have noted same compressor diameters for bv43 and bv43a.. do not know for sure who is right though
 

majesty78

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You should start using correct names for the turbos you have in question.

Something like 5303 970(988) xxxx

However in those turbos you have 1880 and 1874 compressor wheels.

18 = 1.8" exducer and 80% or 74% from that inducer diameter which means

46mm exducer and 34 or 36.8mm inducer.

1874 is found on 120-140hp 2.0L CR and
1880 is used on 163 -170hp engines.

Just to make it a tad easier:

bv43 = k03 = 5303 in BorgWarner designation
bv50 = k04 = 5304 in BW

bv40 = 5440
bv/kp39 = 5439
bv/kp35 = 5435

This is for the first 4 numbers.

Then follows either:

970 for new, delivered to OEM turbo (sometimes 971)

988 for aftermarket OEM turbo

950 for upgrade/specials

And the last 4 are the detailed model no.

So per example a bv43A has:

5303 970(or 988) 0207 which is in terms of BW called:

BV43-1880KCF419.18BVAXC
BV43 = turbo family
1880 compressor wheel dimensions
K/C/F are terms for the geometry of c-wheel/ geometry of c-housing/ trim/contour of c-wheel
4 = turbine housing inlet area in cm²
1 = single scroll
B = turbine contour/trim
V = variable nozzle turbine
A = internal no.
X = design of inlet flange
C = material of turbine housing

Rest of the numbers are internal revisions and design numbers.

And you guys thought Garrett numbers are complicated? ^^
 
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Turbo Z

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http://turbo.honeywell.com/our-technologies/twostage-parallel-turbochargers/


Honeywell’s TwoStage Parallel turbo system is increasingly valued for striking the right balance between performance, fuel efficiency and emissions control. The introduction of latest generation VNT technology, together with options such as ball bearings and new light-weight materials (including TiAl), will further assist auto manufacturers in the development of diesel light vehicles that both excite consumers and comply with ever more stringent environmental standards.

I find the implemention of TiAl most interesting some here now more about it?

Ballbering, VNT and Titanium aluminide and here we go...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_compound
 

TDIMeister

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Been used in production in the Borg Warner EFR family of turbos for some years already.
 

rocco

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Thanks guys for the reply.
I 'm looking a turbo for a fiat 1.3 multijet engine and I want to make the best choice to have minimal lag and a lot of power over 200hp:D.
The Fiat 1.3 Multijet engine ( 1248cc ) is really small . The amount of smoke that it generated is very little .To Load a big turbo is very difficult.
In my country (Italy) is usually used a GTB1549v (2.0 Multijet 170hp) to make a lot of power 190-200hp ( at 2.5-2.8bar ) but it has much lag. it has full boost at 2800-3000rpms.
For an average power is usually used a GTB1446vz (1.6 Multijet 120 hp )to make normal power 135-145hp at 1.8-2.2 bar(depends of the boost) with minimal lag.
I'm looking for the latest generation of Garrett GTD series turbo's and I'm very interested in ceramic ball bearing turbo to reduce lag, for example GTD1752vrk of lastest 2.0bmw 190hp engine's. It is a wonderful turbo for big power but I do not know how much lag can make it.
Anyone knows a little more small ceramic ball bearing turbo's of GTD1752vrk? For example GTD15XXvrk,GTD14XXvrk?
The GTD1449vz of 2.0 tdi 184hp is not ceramic ball bearing and it is integrated into the exhaust manifold.
The borgwargner bv43d is ceramic ball bearing? It is only available integrated with the exhaust manifold?
Thanks
Anyone has information for my answer?
 

Turbo Z

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Yes you are right that was the question then I did not express my self clearly enough since I am quite aware of that the EFR turbos is using TiAl material in the turbine wheel, but as I know only them. And the real interesting question is if the implementation of TiAl becomes even more interesting if Garrett is starting to use it in there VNT turbo chargers, Do you know any thing about that

That was not your original question. This was:
 
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drg_

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AiResearch 465380-5021(by Garrett)

Do any of you guys who know large turbos, and use them for a LP turbo in a sequential setup, know anything about this model? I can't find any info on the Garrett website.(I bought one NOS, but believe it to be a model that is no longer in production or supported by their website info sections)
AiResearch 465380-5021(by Garrett)
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drg_

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OK, thanks. Yes, I looked up the 4LE and that's exactly it. One quick question, is there such a thing as a bearing replacement/upgrade kit that would allow one to swap out a journal bearing for a ball bearing cartridge?
 
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