I havent even looked at 15-16's. Only 13-14's.The other plus is that the 13s/14s generally have better returns. I don't own a single 15/16 because they all are priced too high to deliver reasonable returns.
I havent even looked at 15-16's. Only 13-14's.The other plus is that the 13s/14s generally have better returns. I don't own a single 15/16 because they all are priced too high to deliver reasonable returns.
Not necessarily "so bad", just worse than pre-fix.Why does everyone assume the post fix performance is going to be so bad? From what I remember, the gen. 2 3.0 cars weren't over the limits by much. As far as I can tell, the performance of the fixed 2015 2.0 cars hasn't changed much.
Why wouldn't you want a car that performs about the same, is cleaner, and gets an extended warranty?
Do we know which 2 of the 3 subclasses have been submitted? If the 13-14's havent been yet I would double down that these cars will not get a timely fix.
How much worse? 1%? .5%? 10%? At this point, nobody knows(well, some people probably know, considering a fix has been submitted for 2/3 of the Gen. 2 cars), but the documents stipulate how much the fuel economy etc. can be affected. Even with a slight performance hit, there's not many cars out there that compare with these 3.0 TDIs.Not necessarily "so bad", just worse than pre-fix.
I don't care if they find a fix (in fact, that would be great for the environment and for folks who want to keep driving these things), but it would be better for everyone involved, except maybe VAG's bank account, if they aren't able to find a fix within the next 6 months.
Since any fix keeps the cars out of the crusher, the best thing would be an un-timely fix, because of the restitution implications for everyone involved (arbitragers and owners who intend to keep the cars).How much worse? 1%? .5%? 10%? At this point, nobody knows(well, some people probably know, considering a fix has been submitted for 2/3 of the Gen. 2 cars), but the documents stipulate how much the fuel economy etc. can be affected. Even with a slight performance hit, there's not many cars out there that compare with these 3.0 TDIs.
And yes, the best thing for almost everyone involved would be a timely fix and keeping these cars on the road and out of the crusher. Oh, except for the handful of people buying up cars for profit.
That is true, except if the fix is not approved on time, I believe you will have the buyback option, which I'm sure LOTS of people would take them up on. Not that I would object to more money...Since any fix keeps the cars out of the crusher, the best thing would be an un-timely fix, because of the restitution implications for everyone involved (arbitragers and owners who intend to keep the cars).
The cars would keep their current performance for a longer period of time, AND everyone would get more money. Win/win.
There are tuners out there that for roughly $600 they can clone the new tune so you could take it into the dealer for service and give you a new and better then stock tune. You get the tool to switch between the two. Malone is one of the tuners that come up....Would it be possible to clone the ecu with a tune that can erase the modifications to return to stock or even upgrade performance?
A swap of the ecu for scheduled servicing at the dealership could keep an owner and dealership happy.
The 335d enthusiasts are doing that regularily.
It would appear the original owner, or possibly a 3rd party dealer, did register.Hmm, 2011 Touareg Lux and I'm only seeing 5k restitution (and I'm almost certain the original owner never registered). Seems low, right?
So is there any way to check? Aside from just asking... Which seems to have minimal success.It would appear the original owner, or possibly a 3rd party dealer, did register.
The $10k range includes $1500 from Bosch, which accounts for most of the discrepancy.
Of the cars I'm personally aware of, 9 out 11 did NOT have a prior owner register. I guess we got lucky!Entered 12 claims last night. Appears I ended up 50/50 on previous owner claims. I'm curious from other bulk buyers what their ratio was.
Cars in worse condition/higher mileage are less likely registered by the former owners than cars in better condition/lower mileage.
Just a guess.
I had 3 in good condition/lower mileage and no former owner, 1 w high mileage and not as good condition and they signed up.
Doc, I"m an actual owner and not an arbitrage owner, and I've been through a series of "hopes" in this settlement. This includes being PO'ed that Gen II 3.0 owners will not have a buyback option unless the fix fails. That ticked me off for a bit. Then I shifted to "control what you can control, let the rest go" mode. Now, my reaction is like yours - sort of...having surveyed the landscape of alternatives to the '14 Touareg I own, there are no "must haves" out there. This has been the best and most reliable vehicle I've ever owned, out of over 30 vehicles in my lifetime. If the fix succeeds, I'll accept the payout money gladly and let them fix mine.When I read stuff like this I know we've crossed over into alternate reality. I know I am not the only one who wants the fix to succeed. If you read the transcript from Breyer's court, the FTC representative seems to indicate that the fix will in high likelihood be accepted. Two of the three subclasses have already been submitted by VW to EPA and CARB.
If you bought gen 1's to flip, you are fine. If you bought gen 2's, you took a chance and might come out ok, but don't assume your arbitrager's perspective applies to us all.