Poll for Gen 2 PC owners-What happens on Dec 20?

Are we gonna get richer, or screwed like the Gen 2 SUV owners

I don't really care THAT much. I just wish I had put a little bit more of my money somewhere else.

If the Audi Emissions Lookup site is correct, the fix is approved. I checked my VIN after someone posted on an Audi forum.
www.audidiesellookup.com

Not possible

Dr Chill said:

Are we gonna get richer, or screwed like the Gen 2 SUV owners

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Maybe I'm being naive...how is anyone getting "screwed"? Car is being fixed, fabulous warranty. VW and Bosch payments seem not unreasonable to compensate for decreased performance and diminution in value.

What am I missing?

...not trying to pick a fight, just genuinely interested.

Here you go, https://www.epa.gov/vw/epa-and-carb-approve-emissions-fix-audi-diesel-30-liter-diesel-passenger-cars

in2dwww said:

Here you go, https://www.epa.gov/vw/epa-and-carb-approve-emissions-fix-audi-diesel-30-liter-diesel-passenger-cars

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Cool beans. Been thinking about picking up a 2015 A6 TDI sometime next year when I sell my Jetta TDI back to VW; this should help reduce asking prices and may even see some panic selling from some speculators.

Cars purchased by speculators are just a small fraction of the total cars in the used market.

Big R said:

Maybe I'm being naive...how is anyone getting "screwed"? Car is being fixed, fabulous warranty. VW and Bosch payments seem not unreasonable to compensate for decreased performance and diminution in value.
What am I missing?
...not trying to pick a fight, just genuinely interested.

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Because the fix in no way helps performance or gas mileage, and in many owners' opinions has negatively affected the driving experience compared to the way the vehicle drove before the fix. The restitution payment on these expensive vehicles doesn't appear to equal the higher depreciation they have experienced and is not compensatory enough for the time and trouble experienced by the 3.0 gen 2 owners.

Dr Chill said:

Because the fix in no way helps performance or gas mileage, and in many owners' opinions has negatively affected the driving experience compared to the way the vehicle drove before the fix. The restitution payment on these expensive vehicles doesn't appear to equal the higher depreciation they have experienced and is not compensatory enough for the time and trouble experienced by the 3.0 gen 2 owners.

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Depreciation?
I'm looking at trading my 2014 Q5 TDI Premium Plus, and I am getting offers in the mid 20's. I paid about $50K. With the $10K in payments from Audi and Bosch, I estimate my monthly cost to own was $250/month. That seems to me to be a pretty solid cost to own a luxury small SUV.

The $10,000 is equal to about $200/month compensation for the 50-52 months I owned the vehicle. Seems fair to me.

Don't really see the problem, unless there is a large percentage of vehicles (more than 10-15%) having issues after the fix.

Big R said:

Maybe I'm being naive...how is anyone getting "screwed"? Car is being fixed, fabulous warranty. VW and Bosch payments seem not unreasonable to compensate for decreased performance and diminution in value.
What am I missing?
...not trying to pick a fight, just genuinely interested.

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Well, if a person paid MSRP ($75K) for a 2014 A7 Prestige and now it's only worth $33-35K I can see how they feel that they were screwed. Even with the $11K from VW/Bosch in hand that's a bit of depreciation. .

psd1 said:

Well, if a person paid MSRP ($75K) for a 2014 A7 Prestige and now it's only worth $33-35K I can see how they feel that they were screwed. Even with the $11K from VW/Bosch in hand that's a bit of depreciation. .

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Well said! I have a '14 A7 Prestige and feel totally screwed! They should have gave the option for a buyback, instead they have alienated the rest of us. This is my second TDI owned a '12 Q7 as well, however after this experience I will never buy another one. The comment earlier about stopping and having the Def refilled at the dealer may work great for people that live close to their dealership... I live 2 hours away from the nearest dealership so that is not even a feasible option.

Same boat here with a 14' A7 TDI. Called the dealership to get my bearings fix, hear a whirling noise. They told me they don't know about any fix so far, will update me for my appointment next couple weeks.

So can we go in for the fix yet? Anybody have info on what happens from here? I'd like to do the fix, get remainder of cash and throw her up for sale!

Dealers are starting to get the parts on Jan. 2nd