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TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

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Old October 10th, 2018, 09:23   #1
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Default Experience with off-brand European nozzles?

Hoping people can comment on their experiences with off-brand nozzles. I'm not referring to eBay/Chinese nozzles (although there may be some overlap) but rather European brands other than Bosio/Bosch etc. In my search for nozzles from local and online vendors I've been coming across brands such as:

-DTP (http://dtp-motorteile.de/en/) apparently a German company but they won't tell me where the nozzles are made
-dutchautoparts.com has Wuzetem (Poland)
-idparts.com offers Firad (Italian)
-Darkside has Gibonta nozzles.
-CTS Turbo offers these nozzles: http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/catalog...ion-642-1.html of undetermined origin. These are also available from concept1.ca in Canada.

These all tend to be more expensive than eBay nozzles, but less than genuine Bosios/Bosch nozzles. Would love to hear people who have experience with any of these.
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Old October 10th, 2018, 10:34   #2
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You missed:
https://dss-fr.com/53-nez-d-injcteur-tdi-dti-hdi-td
http://tuningshopbg.com/en/117/140.html

Although not "European" per se, there's also MEC EVO in Quebec.
https://www.mecevo.com
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Old October 10th, 2018, 12:34   #3
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As i saw many people using wuzetem nozzles in the eastern europe, i asked them directly for price and it was something like 20 or 25€ piece for the 0.260, if the quality is good its quite cheap.

There also KZ diesel from Hungary, he got nozzle for vp, pd and other diesel engine.

Owned by the guy who show how to test 2nd stage pressure of nozzle without expensive tool in a video of dieselmeken.

What aobut cpc diesel nozzle ? Still active ?
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Old October 10th, 2018, 12:42   #4
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Gibonta 0.320 + GTB2260VK

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Old October 10th, 2018, 13:44   #5
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Was it a stock ALH short block ?

Still dont know if i give a try on stock AFN, reduce piston cr, asz/arl rotating assembly or maxspeeding rods. It will run a gtb2060vklr
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Old October 10th, 2018, 21:27   #6
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DSS-r .360s, de110/12mm
maybe 25k miles on them so far?
they aren't very balanced, just listening to how the engine runs

they start nice, even when cold, obv more fuel than the pp764s it had before
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Old October 10th, 2018, 22:07   #7
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I have a set of these I got at Concept1: KINTDINOZZ216K, back in April of this year and have had no troubles with them. I had Mark at DFIS set them up for me, and they were in and out in a day or two.
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I think this question is better presented to those who set up injectors, as they "see" the differences first hand. The local shop I send VE injectors to used to sell both Bosch (which are mostly Chinese now, sadly) and Bosio. The Bosio products started out very good, and were a great value... but as time went on, their QC went into the crapper. And it got to a point where they had to get about ten nozzles at a time to find four that would match up good as a set. And maybe two of the ten would be just plain junk. Got so bad, he quit carrying them altogether. They have something else as an alternative to Bosch now, I forget the name, but the last set I put in a customer's car seemed to be fine. SIC was picture perfect, and this was on a 300k mile car, too.

I have also not had any problem with the Chinese Bosch nozzles. I hate Chinese products, both on principle and on the sting of spotty to downright abysmal quality. However, the GENUINE Bosch stuff seems to be fine. I assume they brought their own QC to China. The new VE pumps have been coming from Czech Republic for several years now, and I've installed a bunch of those without any problems, too.
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I think this question is better presented to those who set up injectors, as they "see" the differences first hand. The local shop I send VE injectors to used to sell both Bosch (which are mostly Chinese now, sadly) and Bosio. The Bosio products started out very good, and were a great value... but as time went on, their QC went into the crapper. And it got to a point where they had to get about ten nozzles at a time to find four that would match up good as a set. And maybe two of the ten would be just plain junk. Got so bad, he quit carrying them altogether. They have something else as an alternative to Bosch now, I forget the name, but the last set I put in a customer's car seemed to be fine. SIC was picture perfect, and this was on a 300k mile car, too.
I have also not had any problem with the Chinese Bosch nozzles. I hate Chinese products, both on principle and on the sting of spotty to downright abysmal quality. However, the GENUINE Bosch stuff seems to be fine. I assume they brought their own QC to China. The new VE pumps have been coming from Czech Republic for several years now, and I've installed a bunch of those without any problems, too.
Interesting. Based on your experience it would seem that Bosio is no longer worth the price premium it once was.
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Well Bosio was much cheaper than Bosch, which is why they got so popular for a time. I have no experience with the others. I would trust anything that Kerma or IDparts sells, though.
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Although not "European" per se, there's also MEC EVO in Quebec.
https://www.mecevo.com
Convenient timing I was just looking at MEC EVO. Anyone have experience with their "Mec Evo" branded nozzles?
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Convenient timing I was just looking at MEC EVO. Anyone have experience with their "Mec Evo" branded nozzles?
I emailed them and they told me that their nozzles have the same design and quality control as Firad nozzles (sold by idparts.com).
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Was it a stock ALH short block ?
H-beam rods and bigger valve reliefs in pistons.
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Not sure what Pete set me up with, but Idparts has a hot swap and I am happy with the way Donna’s car runs with them, balanced well per vcds readings
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