Service error

pebjr

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I recently purchased a 2015 Golf several months ago and on several occasions, while I was driving, there has been a audible alarm that sounded with message on the MFD that comes up and says "Service Error ****".
It only last a second or so and I don't have the chance to read the full message and then it goes out.

It does not appear to have any affect on driving.

The CEL has never came on.

It only happened probably 4-5 times since buying the car. (note: I dont drive this car much except on trips, so it stays in the garage the majority of the time.



Also, since there has been no CEL display, would scanning it with VCDS be beneficial?
Any suggestions?
 

Mythdoc

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I have it too, whatever it is. It’s not the image you posted, Lightflyer. It flashes for a split second. I’ll scan the car today and report back.
 

Mythdoc

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I take it back. I just did a scan and one of the faults was steering wheel park sensor error. My son (it’s his car) says the error is the same as the one shown above. Is it serious? My warranty is about to run out, LOL.
 

740GLE

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known issue for the gear selector and switches, dealer should replace it, there will be codes stored for it, just not codes that'd cause a CEL.
 

Mythdoc

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known issue for the gear selector and switches, dealer should replace it, there will be codes stored for it, just not codes that'd cause a CEL.

Thanks. I missed my warranty by one day. Nevertheless, it seems probable that VW will comp this repair.
 

740GLE

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the code should be stored, and they should be able to pull the mileage to show it happened before warranty was up, fingers crossed.
 

pebjr

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Scanning would be the next step. There may be a stored code that doesn't set a CE light. Do it yourself or find someone or try the dealer.

Here is a similar thread maybe:

https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-18199.html

Look like this?


Nothing like this. I also read the link that you posted and my symptoms are quite different.

I can be driving down the road at hwy speed and all of suddenly i have a warning chime and a quick display on the MFD. It doesnt last but a second and there is no time to read it. Its always does it when I have been driving for a while, never at start up.
 

pebjr

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I had a chance to scan my vehicle today.


Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F 75

VIN: 3VW2A7AU9FM084824 Mileage: 54516km-33874miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
75-Telematics -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CRUA) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
Part No SW: 04L 906 021 D HW: 04L 907 309
Component: R4 2.0l TDI H23 9283
Revision: 85H23---
Coding: 011D0012032410080000
Shop #: WSC 04921 444 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021D 004017
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021D_004.rod
VCID: 266D1312593C3F747D-8072

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743) Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 0D9 300 041 N HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
Component: DQ250-6F MQB H53 4512
Revision: 03253104 Serial number: TFK01502120937
Coding: 0014
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00064
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
VCID: 236B0A062A0ECA5C1A-8076

2 Faults Found:
10906 - Cooling Oil Valve
P179D 00 [002] - Electrical Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

10763 - Starter Enable from Selector Lever Sensor System
P1734 00 [002] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 P HW: 3Q0 907 379 C
Component: ESC H32 0385
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 50515000000824
Coding: 01FA6AA124280970007F020281C72580562490004081A4B200630050C002
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 034033
ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_034_VW37.rod
VCID: 47B3BE96FE76C67CA6-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels:| 5G0-907-426.clb
Part No SW: 5GM 907 426 HW: 5GM 907 426
Component: AC Manuell H02 1001
Revision: 00001K01
Coding: 00020104202100000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 003019
ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_003_VW37.rod
VCID: 052F749E84FA146C14-8050

Fresh Air Blower Front:

Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender:

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-BV1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 937 087 Q HW: 5Q0 937 087 Q
Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 028 0145
Revision: -------- Serial number: 86580702152200
Coding: 000018424041804169E44000000403001000000000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00225
ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 014004
ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_014.rod
VCID: 49B7B8AEE862300CB0-801C

Control Unit For Wiper Motor:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5GM 955 119 HW: 5GM 955 119 Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
Component: WWS 150119 043 0581
Serial number: 150327205725
Coding: 0E4DDD

1 Fault Found:
329480 - Heated Passenger Seat
B1806 F0 [008] - Safety Shut-Off due to Occupant Detection
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 48
Reset counter: 190
Mileage: 48484 km
Date: 2018.02.19
Time: 16:05:15


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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 T HW: 5Q0 959 655 T
Component: AirbagVW20 009 0825
Serial number: 003MHM020BTK
Coding: 8CCCFC00000000005000001AC24800000065
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002138
ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
VCID: 518790CE003208CCF8-8004

Occupant Detection:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B HW: 4M0 959 339 B
Component: BF-Gewichtss. H10 0021
Serial number: IBH0000J150002LP1P0G
Coding: 303138

Side Sensor Driver Front:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 003 001 15
Component: SideSensor_Df 001 0887
Serial number: 35700000000F31810314
Coding: 2D2D2D

Side Sensor Passenger Front:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 003 001 15
Component: SideSensor_Pf 001 0887
Serial number: 35800000000FDAE4521.
Coding: 2D2D2D

Side Sensor Driver Rear:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 402 901 15
Component: SideSensor_Dr 001 6149
Serial number: 3510002C51901D91905X
Coding: 2D2D2D

Side Sensor Passenger Rear:
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 302 15
Component: SideSensor_Pr 001 6149
Serial number: 3520002B71901D95208Z
Coding: 2D2D2D

Front Sensor Driver:
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 302 15
Component: FrontSensor_D 001 6149
Serial number: 3550002A3196FF560289
Coding: 2D2D2D

Front Sensor Passenger:
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 302 15
Component: FrontSensor_P 001 6149
Serial number: 3560002A3196FF517226
Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J524) Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 953 521 P HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
Component: Lenks.Modul 075 0175
Revision: FF032032 Serial number: 20150221500734
Coding: 0410
Shop #: WSC 66564 385 16448
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
VCID: 3FA3A676A6A68EBC1E-806A

1 Fault Found:
617752 - Selector Lever Park Position Lock Switch
B1162 29 [008] - Signal Implausible
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 7
Reset counter: 190
Mileage: 50833 km
Date: 2018.05.12
Time: 18:01:23

Ubat 30 Voltage: 13.40 V
Ignition State: On
Terminal 15: 12.60 V
A/D #1: 0.00 %
A/D #2: 0.00 %
A/D #3: 0.00 %


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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
Part No SW: 5G1 920 841 HW: 5G1 920 841
Component: KOMBI 243 4270
Coding: 0BB41A0A2180CF0502086A001000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00064
ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009037
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
VCID: 65EF541E64BAF46CB4-8030

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AB HW: 5Q0 907 530 L
Component: GW MQB Mid 211 2203
Revision: -------- Serial number: 01031510001734
Coding: 0101000800087300EF0000081C0F00000001050000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07029
ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 011020
ROD: EV_GatewConti_011_VW37.rod
VCID: 71C7304EA07228CCD8-8024

Alternator:

Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 P HW: 5G0 959 442 P Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H16 0101
Serial number: 29150000485270125111
Coding: 31FFFF

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 393 B HW: 5Q0 959 393 B
Component: TSG FS 020 0025
Serial number: 17031506050551
Coding: 003003200000040000000000
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
VCID: 3E5DDB72A1AC87B415-806A

Drivers Door Rear Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 D HW: 5Q4 959 811 D Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
Component: Fond FHSG DRV 007 0002
Serial number: 00000000000000890482
Coding: 011000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 R HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS 126 1061
Coding: 0102
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00064
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_012_VW37.rod
VCID: 43ABAA86CA4EEA5C7A-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 392 B HW: 5Q0 959 392 B
Component: TSG BFS 020 0025
Serial number: 25021506050AZW
Coding: 003003200000040000000000
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMINKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
VCID: 3D5FDC7EACAA9CAC0C-8068

Passengers Rear Door Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 D HW: 5Q4 959 812 D Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
Component: Fond FHSG PSG 007 0002
Serial number: 00000000000000920448
Coding: 091000

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
Part No SW: 5G0 035 844 HW: 5G0 035 844
Component: MU-S-S-US 014 0645
Serial number: V7B02702151629
Coding: 02730000FF00000021220001001800001F0100040100010002
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07029
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002040
ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
VCID: 64E9491A6F808D64A3-8030

Operating And Display Unit 1:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605 H HW: 5G0 919 605 H
Component: ABT_Std_Plus H60 0030
Serial number: VWZ8Z9PS50173X

1 Fault Found:
0020 - Tuner for Satelite Radio
B11CF 53 [009] - Deactivated
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 141
Mileage: 52211 km
Date: 2018.07.23
Time: 09:27:44

Voltage terminal 30: 12.7 V
Satellite radio tuner status-Satellite radio antenna status: Electrical OK
Satellite radio tuner status-Channel selection for satellite radio: 0
Satellite radio tuner status-Audio Signal: Not available
Satellite radio tuner status-Antenna current: 0 mA
Satellite radio tuner status-Reception quality: Not available
Satellite radio tuner status-SDARS Flash Regional code: US_Audio_Traffic_Travellink


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Address 75: Telematics (J949) Labels:| 5QE-035-285.clb
Part No SW: 5QE 035 285 A HW: 5QE 035 285 A
Component: OCULowMQBUS 007 0564
Coding: 02730002C2821A017F1E06000000
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00322
ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULowMQB 001003
ROD: EV_OCULowMQB.rod
VCID: 43ABAA86CA4EEA5C7A-8016

1 Fault Found:
7170 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [008] - -
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 187
Mileage: 52565 km
Date: 2018.07.25
Time: 12:04:08


End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:06)--------------------------



I did not clear any codes.



I work out of town and when I get back I'll try to schedule an appointment with VW service and have them take a look at it since its still under warranty,
 

Lightflyer1

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Maybe this:

Address 16: Steering wheel (J524) Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 953 521 P HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
Component: Lenks.Modul 075 0175
Revision: FF032032 Serial number: 20150221500734
Coding: 0410
Shop #: WSC 66564 385 16448
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
VCID: 3FA3A676A6A68EBC1E-806A

1 Fault Found:
617752 - Selector Lever Park Position Lock Switch
B1162 29 [008] - Signal Implausible
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 7
Reset counter: 190
Mileage: 50833 km
Date: 2018.05.12
Time: 18:01:23

None of the other codes would seem to display anything like you say you are seeing.
 

Lightflyer1

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Maybe this:

Address 16: Steering wheel (J524) Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 953 521 P HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
Component: Lenks.Modul 075 0175
Revision: FF032032 Serial number: 20150221500734
Coding: 0410
Shop #: WSC 66564 385 16448
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
VCID: 3FA3A676A6A68EBC1E-806A

1 Fault Found:
617752 - Selector Lever Park Position Lock Switch
B1162 29 [008] - Signal Implausible
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 7
Reset counter: 190
Mileage: 50833 km
Date: 2018.05.12
Time: 18:01:23

None of the other codes would seem to display anything like you say you are seeing.
 

pebjr

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It happens so fast that I only have time to read " Service error***" then it goes away.

I have no Idea of what it says after the fact.




Since the vehicle is under warranty I made an appointment with the dealer.

I'll update the post on what the service center says.
 
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740GLE

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good luck this won't be the first one they've changed out, not sure if it's the wiring that becomes chafed or if its bad switch bounce.
 

Mythdoc

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The steering wheel malfunction is it. It requires a new gear selector lever. VW just agreed to replace mine for free, one day after the warranty had expired.
 

pebjr

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Just got back from the dealer and they replaced the transmission shifter assy:
parts incl-

part # 5Q1-713-041-G Mechanism
part # 5Q0-798-101 Repair set
part # 6R0-713-274 Washer


I bought the vehicle in April as a CPO.

I was only responsible for the deductible of $50.00
 

740GLE

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Is the deductible a CPO thing? I thought VWoA would pick up the entire tab on warranty work.

Or is the dealer just trying to pocked a little more for their troubles?
 

pebjr

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Its a CPO thing. According to the VW Certified Warranty Manual it states:
"The warranty period for a Certified Pre-Owned Volkswagen vehicle is 2 years or 24,000 miles, whichever occurs first."


Under the terms of warranty it states:
"Repairs under this warranty will be performed at no additional charge after a deductible of $50 per dealer visit. In the event several repair attempts are necessary to repair a manufacture's defect in materials or workmanship covered by this warranty, the deductible with respect to that repair must be paid only once. Vehicles purchased before January 1, 2012 are not subject to a deductible."
 
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