Delete egr or fix pipe

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Diesel_K82

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Long time TDI admirer and I recently stumbled on 2004 BEW 5 speed with 220k on the clock. It appears the lower egr line is leaking exhaust. Previous owner swapped it out at 215k, but already cracked again. Thoughts on deleting egr vs fixing pipe again?
 
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Mine's deleted, PD engines still warms up quickly, ALH's don't like egr deletes. If you have no emission testing, then delete it, but you'll need a tune as well otherwise the CEL will be on. While your at it, have them turn off the smart actuator.
 
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Diesel_K82 said:
Could you help me out, what is the smart actuator?
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Turbo actuator on a BEW has an electric sensor that fails, buts it still activated by vacuum, just like the ALH. Its expensive, so its cheaper to turn the light off with a tune. ;)
 
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turbovan+tdi said:
Turbo actuator on a BEW has an electric sensor that fails, buts it still activated by vacuum, just like the ALH. Its expensive, so its cheaper to turn the light off with a tune. ;)
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This "tune" you speak of...is it just turning off the check engine light or is there an actual adjustment of engine operating parameters/maps?

Why does the ALH not "like" an EGR delete?

Al
 
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The various commercial tuners offer performance enhancing tunes that can delete
the CEL after an EGR delete if asked to do so.

The ALH will warm up faster with the EGR in place and active. This is helpful in colder climates.
 
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Due to EGR cooler scavenging some heat then?

Does warm up pretty slow. 10min idling @-26C, radiator blocked off...and still takes 20km of highway driving (110km/h) to warm up enough for thermostat to open. COLD blooded little beastie. ;)

Al
 
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If its a daily driver and you live in colder winter areas, repair it, if your local state laws prohibit alteration of emissions, repair it, Federal law requires you keep it and repair it if you drive it on public roads and or have it tagged. On the other hand live in only warm areas, delete it. only race it, trailer it around, delete it, want less parts, more room, delete it, if you your states does not emission tests diesel cars, delete it if you must.

i would keep it and repair it properly this time around. Only because its going to cost you more to delete it with a tune to fix the EGR CEL
 
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Diesel_K82 said:
How’s your mpg after delete?
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My mpg's on my wagon have never really changed, no matter what I do, its around 32 mpg.

Gippeto said:
This "tune" you speak of...is it just turning off the check engine light or is there an actual adjustment of engine operating parameters/maps?
Why does the ALH not "like" an EGR delete?
Al
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A tune can be either a few simple things like turning off this or that or a full tune that modify's fuel, timing etc for more power.

ALH's and BEW's use coolant to cool the egr system down, but the ALH really needs that heat for some reason, it helps the engine warm up faster and keep the temp there when idling.
 
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Mongler98 said:
If its a daily driver and you live in colder winter areas, repair it, if your local state laws prohibit alteration of emissions, repair it, Federal law requires you keep it and repair it if you drive it on public roads and or have it tagged. On the other hand live in only warm areas, delete it. only race it, trailer it around, delete it, want less parts, more room, delete it, if you your states does not emission tests diesel cars, delete it if you must.

i would keep it and repair it properly this time around. Only because its going to cost you more to delete it with a tune to fix the EGR CEL
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Says the man that is modding the crap out of his car, making it have totally more tailpipe emission's that stock. ;)
 
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I'm wondering if the OP's broken pipes is due to a missing bracket. Not sure which pipe has the bracket that the dealers failed to reinstall after a recall way back when.
 
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Mongler98 said:
HAHA, true! Do as i say, not as a do, i should say!
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LOL, at least you have a sense of humour, hoping you would take it that way, :cool:
 
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yea man, no i know my TDI is a joke, its FUN and has a reason to be so, after i got into autocross im like, screw it, give me as much smoke as i can, with my 4,800 watt 2x12" subs, 165dB Trainhorns, 6 HID's and TONS OF SMOKE it turns heads for the right reasons, it tickes people off or makes them jump when i hit the horns lol, thanks horn blasters!
 
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