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VW MKVII-Mk7 Golf family including Golf Wagon (~ 2015 +) Discussions area for the Mk7 (2015+) Golf and Golf Wagon TDIs based on the MQB (Modularer Querbaukasten) platform.

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Old July 26th, 2017, 11:01   #16
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The challenge you face is that the TDI has a torsion beam rear axle and GTI and R Golfs have IRS, so they use different rear springs. A GSW is significantly heavier than the Golf in the rear so those springs won't do what you want.

My experience is that H&R tends to consolidate a lot of part numbers into its sport springs. I'd look for Eibach springs instead if you can find them for your application. I looked in the Koni catalog to see if they have a shock/Eibach spring set like they do for the MKVI cars, but not yet.
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Old July 26th, 2017, 11:36   #17
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The challenge you face is that the TDI has a torsion beam rear axle and GTI and R Golfs have IRS, so they use different rear springs. A GSW is significantly heavier than the Golf in the rear so those springs won't do what you want.

My experience is that H&R tends to consolidate a lot of part numbers into its sport springs. I'd look for Eibach springs instead if you can find them for your application. I looked in the Koni catalog to see if they have a shock/Eibach spring set like they do for the MKVI cars, but not yet.
After looking around and at the actual pics of a GSW TDI on the H&R Sports I posted about up above, they are definitely the way I'm going. H&R's site is interesting to see they did specify that part number for all the variants BUT that part number is only referenced for the GSW TDI's being sold and 100% compatible with the GSW TDI. It's a little confusing but after looking at someone else before/after with my exact car, I'm very comfortable with my decision.

For reference, here is main thread on the other site (hope it's ok to direct back there) http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...SW-Spring-Sets
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Old July 26th, 2017, 20:01   #18
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After looking around and at the actual pics of a GSW TDI on the H&R Sports I posted about up above, they are definitely the way I'm going. H&R's site is interesting to see they did specify that part number for all the variants BUT that part number is only referenced for the GSW TDI's being sold and 100% compatible with the GSW TDI. It's a little confusing but after looking at someone else before/after with my exact car, I'm very comfortable with my decision.
For reference, here is main thread on the other site (hope it's ok to direct back there) http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...SW-Spring-Sets
Yes, there seems to be plenty of info on springs for the GSW TDI, I have a 2015 Golf TDI SEL, no wagon.

I thought the H&R springs would work great, but the question is would they void the factory warranty on the suspension. Im guessing they would. I literally have a 4 finger gap in the rear and almost 4 fingers in the front on stock GTI Austins.
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Old July 26th, 2017, 22:41   #19
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Yes, there seems to be plenty of info on springs for the GSW TDI, I have a 2015 Golf TDI SEL, no wagon.

I thought the H&R springs would work great, but the question is would they void the factory warranty on the suspension. Im guessing they would. I literally have a 4 finger gap in the rear and almost 4 fingers in the front on stock GTI Austins.
I'm not even sure what warranty we have on the related suspension parts BUT I would assume and non-VW accessory spring would void it. I don't know if even the Eibach springs count anymore as "VW" accessories like back when you could order from them. No matter, I can't stand to look at the car with all the gap. If a conservative drop like these blows out a strut, then either replace with stock one or upgrade them all to aftermarket.😊

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Old July 27th, 2017, 04:30   #20
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After looking around and at the actual pics of a GSW TDI on the H&R Sports I posted about up above, they are definitely the way I'm going. H&R's site is interesting to see they did specify that part number for all the variants BUT that part number is only referenced for the GSW TDI's being sold and 100% compatible with the GSW TDI. It's a little confusing but after looking at someone else before/after with my exact car, I'm very comfortable with my decision.
For reference, here is main thread on the other site (hope it's ok to direct back there) http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...SW-Spring-Sets

FYI H&R site and different part numbers may not actually mean they they are actually different car specific parts.

Case in point, I found their part number for a 24mm RSB for the Passat, ordered it, it was a different part number form the Mk5 jetta according to their site. In turning back my Mk5 jetta I removed the 24mm bar that I bought second hand from a 'vtex GTI member.

I compared both bars side by side, and they were bang on same dimensions, only difference is the Passat's was Purple Mat where as the Mk5 was silver sparkle.

Maybe the actual torsion of the two bars were different, different alloy or something but still I didn't even try the Mk5 bar on the passat because it had different part numbers, if I had I would have prob been happy enough with it.
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Old May 2nd, 2018, 05:50   #21
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has anybody compared the rear spring from the GTI vs TDI, i understand TDI is not an IRS but how do they ( springs) actually differ?
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Old May 2nd, 2018, 15:53   #22
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After looking around and at the actual pics of a GSW TDI on the H&R Sports I posted about up above, they are definitely the way I'm going. H&R's site is interesting to see they did specify that part number for all the variants BUT that part number is only referenced for the GSW TDI's being sold and 100% compatible with the GSW TDI. It's a little confusing but after looking at someone else before/after with my exact car, I'm very comfortable with my decision.
For reference, here is main thread on the other site (hope it's ok to direct back there) http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...SW-Spring-Sets
Check the Eibach's. Finally had them installed on my 15 GSW and love it, front down about 1 3/4" and the rear just a bit more. Ride is for the most part like stock and no where near annoying. I am glad I went with these....
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Old June 1st, 2018, 09:18   #23
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H&R Sports (correct ones for our TDI)

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Old June 1st, 2018, 15:58   #24
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Looks good. I went with Neuspeed for my GSW.
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Old June 1st, 2018, 16:03   #25
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Nice, I ended up switching to H&Rs as well. I have the same Quickjack as well, perfect for pretty much any job!



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I'd be interested to see what an alignment report looks like for one of these cars after lowering. i wonder if they have some of the same geometry changes as MKIV cars when lowered.
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I'd be interested to see what an alignment report looks like for one of these cars after lowering. i wonder if they have some of the same geometry changes as MKIV cars when lowered.
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Front camber looks like it would on a lowered MKIV. I would have asked them to shift the subframe to equalize left and right measurements.
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