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Old July 18th, 2017, 22:30   #1
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Default Need advice on springs - Mk7 Golf TDI SEL

So I purchased a stop sale 2015 Golf TDI SEL, and I would like to lower it a bit. There is so much different info on springs, and I'm not really sure which is the best way to go at this point.

What do you guys recommend?

I want the ride to be comfortable as its my DD with a 70 mile roundtrip commute, but it also needs to handle better and look good without affecting the factory warranty. Right now I have 18" Austins on the car and have a 2.5 inch front gap and a 3 inch rear gap, I would like to lower it quite a bit, but not so low that it rubs when I haul equipment in the hatch.

Any suggestions??
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Old July 19th, 2017, 05:35   #2
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I'd look into H&R sport springs, drops about 1" or so, they can be had pretty cheap too, $200 or so?
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Old July 19th, 2017, 13:42   #3
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I'd look into H&R sport springs, drops about 1" or so, they can be had pretty cheap too, $200 or so?
Thanks, they are on the list, amongst others...like I said there is a lot of conflicting info regarding springs for the Golf TDI.... I think I may want to go lower than an inch, with the Austins being partly black, it makes the wheel gap look atrocious.

I would love to see what other mk7 Golf owners are using as springs.
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Old July 21st, 2017, 06:44   #4
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So I purchased a stop sale 2015 Golf TDI SEL, and I would like to lower it a bit. There is so much different info on springs, and I'm not really sure which is the best way to go at this point.


What do you guys recommend?


I want the ride to be comfortable as its my DD with a 70 mile roundtrip commute, but it also needs to handle better and look good without affecting the factory warranty. Right now I have 18" Austins on the car and have a 2.5 inch front gap and a 3 inch rear gap, I would like to lower it quite a bit, but not so low that it rubs when I haul equipment in the hatch.
Any suggestions??

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Old July 21st, 2017, 10:56   #5
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Vortex is the holy grail of lowering spring information, they have reviews all the different makes of springs and drops, from mild to wild.

From what I've read if you're going over 1" in drop, be prepared to replace the struts not to much longer down the road.
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 07:37   #6
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The lower you go, the stiffer it will be. If you really want to maintain comfort, I'd suggest the VW Driver Gear springs. They will not lower it as much as you think you want, but will maintain comfort and use of stock struts. The H&R, VWR, and pretty much anything else is going to drop you a minimum 1.3". The other thread for "Lowering Springs" shows a picture of my car and I'm pretty sure the front is lower than 1.3" drop. I tried just the springs on stock struts and hated every minute of it. Replaced with Bilstein B8s and have been so much better. With 225/40 tires at 38psi, it still hits a few bumps just wrong and creates a light jolt but they're great on everything else.
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Old July 25th, 2017, 05:34   #7
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The lower you go, the stiffer it will be. If you really want to maintain comfort, I'd suggest the VW Driver Gear springs. They will not lower it as much as you think you want, but will maintain comfort and use of stock struts. The H&R, VWR, and pretty much anything else is going to drop you a minimum 1.3". The other thread for "Lowering Springs" shows a picture of my car and I'm pretty sure the front is lower than 1.3" drop. I tried just the springs on stock struts and hated every minute of it. Replaced with Bilstein B8s and have been so much better. With 225/40 tires at 38psi, it still hits a few bumps just wrong and creates a light jolt but they're great on everything else.
Thank you for this post. Thats a nice looking car you have, love the drop! Still undecided, with a "new" old 2015 Golf with only 6000 miles, I don't think I want to replace shocks/ struts just yet. I may look into the DG springs more, Ive spent enough on parts in the last 3 months already, haha.
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Old July 25th, 2017, 09:00   #8
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Vortex is the holy grail of lowering spring information, they have reviews all the different makes of springs and drops, from mild to wild.

From what I've read if you're going over 1" in drop, be prepared to replace the struts not to much longer down the road.

The Vortex thread def has the most info and options but not a ton of those guys have TDI which means they have more options because they aren't dealing with the torsion beam rear end. After many hours of research between this and the other sites, I'm going to pull the trigger on H&R Sports for a modest drop to put it about where my 09 Jetta TDI sat. H&R has updated their set a couple times from what I can gather and the TDI specific springs will provide an even drop rather than the reversed rake drop that was being seen by kits that "would" fit but were designed for other Golf variants.

As for replacement of struts, I'd say it will depend on your roads and your driving. Our roads are pretty decent and I spent a good amount of time on the interstate and my 09 TDI struts/shocks were still working fine at 223k miles (as where my original front brake pads. :-D).
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Old July 25th, 2017, 20:10   #9
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The Vortex thread def has the most info and options but not a ton of those guys have TDI which means they have more options because they aren't dealing with the torsion beam rear end. After many hours of research between this and the other sites, I'm going to pull the trigger on H&R Sports for a modest drop to put it about where my 09 Jetta TDI sat. H&R has updated their set a couple times from what I can gather and the TDI specific springs will provide an even drop rather than the reversed rake drop that was being seen by kits that "would" fit but were designed for other Golf variants.
As for replacement of struts, I'd say it will depend on your roads and your driving. Our roads are pretty decent and I spent a good amount of time on the interstate and my 09 TDI struts/shocks were still working fine at 223k miles (as where my original front brake pads. :-D).
Yeah that seems to be the problem, finding info on our TDI's. Does using any springs other than VW void warranty on suspension? Thats what I want to avoid.

Ideally I want a 36mm drop in the front and 48mm in the rear, that would give me an inch of wheel gap in front and rear. Not sure the best setup for that, should I go any lower? I have dealer low profile tires that came with the car on now and will be putting on 17 inch winter tires in a few months.
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Old July 25th, 2017, 21:18   #10
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Yeah that seems to be the problem, finding info on our TDI's. Does using any springs other than VW void warranty on suspension? Thats what I want to avoid.
Ideally I want a 36mm drop in the front and 48mm in the rear, that would give me an inch of wheel gap in front and rear. Not sure the best setup for that, should I go any lower? I have dealer low profile tires that came with the car on now and will be putting on 17 inch winter tires in a few months.
I'm not 100% sure on the Golf, will start poking around BUT I know these are the correct springs for the 2015 Golf SportWagen TDI >>> https://www.ecstuning.com/b-h-and-r-...-set/54788~hr/ and you can reference H&R directly here >>> http://www.hrsprings.com/application.../38/1758/2015/

H&R lists this set for your car >>> https://www.ecstuning.com/b-h-and-r-...set/547862~hr/ >>> http://www.hrsprings.com/application.../38/1731/2015/
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What about a set of springs off a GTI if your wanting to keep it OEM w/good look and daily use?

Dieselgeek dont make a MK7 skidplate yet, I wouldent go too low with a taller Diesel engine.. even on GTI Springs your oil pan will be lower than a GTI.
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GTI would prob be too much sag.

Take a look at the Golf R variant (golf R wagen from Europe) if you want to stick to OEM.

EVo makes a skid plate, theres a thread on it not to long ago.
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GTI would prob be too much sag.

Take a look at the Golf R variant (golf R wagen from Europe) if you want to stick to OEM.

EVo makes a skid plate, theres a thread on it not to long ago.
Canadian Highline TDI (aka SEL) in hatch version come with OEM sport springs that lower vehicle ~ 1/2 in (12-13mm) and provide better handling... but I have been unable to locate part numbers... the GTI and R rear springs will not match since those have different rear suspension that US TDI
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GTI would prob be too much sag.
I think the front springs/struts from the gti would work well on a golf tdi. The two cars have nearly identical curb weight. Obviously the rear suspension is different.
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ahh I miss read the OP and was thinking he was looking for springs for a wagen
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