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Old July 4th, 2017, 14:43   #16
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It's all fine and dandy to throw around that the filter is only $ 19.00 each.
That may be in the U S of A but not in Canada. A Mahle filter which I just installed today was Cdn $ 60.00 !
I'm just curious as I have no dog in this fight. Outsde of the fact that K&N filters don't work as good as a paper filter. What is the K&N cost Cdn?
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Old July 4th, 2017, 16:36   #17
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I'm just curious as I have no dog in this fight. Outsde of the fact that K&N filters don't work as good as a paper filter. What is the K&N cost Cdn?
K&N Filters in Canada are usually between $70-$80 bucks...plus tax, which in my case is 15%. These days, our price differences are usually pretty close to the US/CDN exchange rate. Not always, but often enough.

I'm having a hard time with buying a $60 paper air filter though. Does the 15 Passat have some special kind of filter requirements? Is it an odd shaped unit? (Edit...I just Googled quickly, and it looks like a Mk5 TDI filter...which can be had for $15 all day long in Canada, even cheaper if you want white box auto parts store stuff).
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Old July 4th, 2017, 17:49   #18
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K&N Filters in Canada are usually between $70-$80 bucks...plus tax, which in my case is 15%. These days, our price differences are usually pretty close to the US/CDN exchange rate. Not always, but often enough.

I'm having a hard time with buying a $60 paper air filter though. Does the 15 Passat have some special kind of filter requirements? Is it an odd shaped unit? (Edit...I just Googled quickly, and it looks like a Mk5 TDI filter...which can be had for $15 all day long in Canada, even cheaper if you want white box auto parts store stuff).
That is why I asked. Where did he buy this $60.00 filter from? If a paper filter is 60 bucks how much is a K&N? That is outrageous, exchange rate or not.

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Old July 5th, 2017, 06:46   #19
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Even though I live in a very large city the availability for some parts is not that easy. I would not buy a filter at Walmart, and the stealer prices are outrageous. Example $ 20.00 for 1.89 liter of DEF fluid which I can get in bulk at a truck stop for far less.

I bought a cabin filter which came to $ 23.00, a K+N is $66.00 but you do not throw it away.

Relax and don't get your knickers all in a twist, it seems that K+N does NOT make a fuel filter !!!!!! I will try to buy 1 or 2 on my way through the USA, if maybe Auto zone or someone like that carries them.

My usual route takes me via Detroit I-57, Cinci I-71, Nashville I-65, Little Rock I-40, Dallas I-35, Austin, San Antonio to Laredo. So if someone lets me know where I can pick up a fuel filter along my way I'll do so. That is not going way off my route.
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Old July 7th, 2017, 07:50   #20
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(Edit...I just Googled quickly, and it looks like a Mk5 TDI filter...which can be had for $15 all day long in Canada, even cheaper if you want white box auto parts store stuff).
Wish that you would tell me where you buy a fuel filter in Canada for that price. I have no trouble GOOGLING for anything, but this has not come up in my searches. I may be wrong but there is no special filter for the 2015, though where I bought mine they had one at 16cm (6.3inch) long, which is mine. The other was shorter.
I just did a one hour search and the only one I found was at Auto Zone at US$ 35.99 plus shipping, plus exchange rate! eBay had some for Tuareg but the fitment says it would not fit even though it looked like my original.

Also found a website where they said that a typical fuel filter change is between US$ 93.00 and $ 110.00 for part and labor, That's ridiculous, it took me 15 minutes to change mine and the engine started right away since I followed a Youtube instruction to the letter..


BTW: I just received my K+N cabin filter. I am impressed in the quality of the unit. A much more solid filter and NO paper.
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What filters are you guys talking about? engine, cabin or fuel?

Rembrant was prob questioning where you were buying engine air filters for $60.

Fuel filters are different beast as the 2015 is different than a Mk5. Paying a dealer $60 for a fuel filter doesn't sounds that bad once exchange rate is taken into account.

As a refrence of price I always check Idparts as they keep a good track of what VW OWE part number matches filter manufacture part number.
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What filters are you guys talking about? engine, cabin or fuel?

Rembrant was prob questioning where you were buying engine air filters for $60.
Yes, sorry...I was replying to MichaelB at the time, who I thought was replying to another guy about air filters...

I know the original post was about fuel filters, but ALL of the other filters seemed to get thrown in the mix too...

My bad OP, sorry.

PS: In Canada, check filter prices with Roseland. That's where I get my filters.
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As a refrence of price I always check Idparts as they keep a good track of what VW OWE part number matches filter manufacture part number.
https://www.idparts.com/fuel-filter-...fi-p-6297.html
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Fuel filters are different beast as the 2015 is different than a Mk5. Paying a dealer $60 for a fuel filter doesn't sounds that bad once exchange rate is taken into account.

As a refrence of price I always check Idparts as they keep a good track of what VW OWE part number matches filter manufacture part number.
This fuel filter I bought was NOT from a dealer, I'd be afraid to ask their price.

I checked the Idparts and my fuel filter there, without knowing their shipping cost would be about $ 40.00 some odd Beaver bucks. There is the US price, duty of 12% charged plus shipping, plus exchange rate.

According to their fitment list the 2015 and up is a different fuel filter from previous TDI's.
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Old July 8th, 2017, 18:45   #25
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This fuel filter I bought was NOT from a dealer, I'd be afraid to ask their price.

I checked the Idparts and my fuel filter there, without knowing their shipping cost would be about $ 40.00 some odd Beaver bucks. There is the US price, duty of 12% charged plus shipping, plus exchange rate.

According to their fitment list the 2015 and up is a different fuel filter from previous TDI's.
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Well, it looks like your screwed, so much for living in Canada. I guess K&N be the man and sell inferior products even though they don't make a fuel filter for your car. While on your journey through the US stop in at any dealer and save yourself some bucks.
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PS: In Canada, check filter prices with Roseland. That's where I get my filters.
Just checked the Roseland website. Seems he stops at MK6, no B7 (NMS).
No fuel filters.
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A bit heavy on the hyperbole here. No cabin filter is going to "save your lungs" unless you live in your car all the time like the Bubble Boy. It just keeps the interior of the car from getting as dusty.

The theory behind a K&N type air filter is that the air swirls around as it passes through the mesh and particles are forced into the oiled cotton, where they stick. It works, to some extent, but the air going through your cabin filter is pretty low velocity.

Race cars use K&N type filters (or no filters at all) because they get rebuilt all the time anyway.

VW designed a very nice "cold air intake" for you. It works. Don't screw with it.

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Just checked the Roseland website. Seems he stops at MK6, no B7 (NMS).
No fuel filters.
Yeah, the website is just new a few months ago so they may not have everything on there yet. I'd email or call and ask them.
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This fuel filter I bought was NOT from a dealer, I'd be afraid to ask their price.

I checked the Idparts and my fuel filter there, without knowing their shipping cost would be about $ 40.00 some odd Beaver bucks. There is the US price, duty of 12% charged plus shipping, plus exchange rate.

According to their fitment list the 2015 and up is a different fuel filter from previous TDI's.
type in the OEM part number in amazon and roll the dice?

https://www.amazon.com/Fuel-Filter-5.../dp/B01GINIGE4
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I don't know why all the hate is out there for the K&N. Back in the day when I bought my truck it came with a K&N, the pistons and rings looked totally fine at 200k miles. Plus, it only had a mild coating of dust in the intake. Saved at least 150 bucks in air filters and the guy before me said there was at least a 20 hp increase, can't argue with those results.

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