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Old June 23rd, 2017, 18:01   #2206
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Ok, I just looked at some amsoil pages and it does appear that the 5w30 esp has 507 approval. I really had no dog in this- I don't read the owners manual as gospel or even use 507 oils.
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Old June 23rd, 2017, 18:24   #2207
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Ok, I just looked at some amsoil pages and it does appear that the 5w30 esp has 507 approval. I really had no dog in this- I don't read the owners manual as gospel or even use 507 oils.
THANK YOU!

I felt like Galileo at the Inquisition.

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p.s. Unless you have a particulate filter you don't need 507.00. And if you DO have one, and get rid of the filter (for offroad use only) then you no longer need it.

If you DO have the filter I'd strongly suggest using 507.00. Particulate filters in diesels already have a checkered history. I wouldn't tempt fate.
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Old August 10th, 2017, 08:31   #2208
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How much did Castrol pay vw to have their product on vw shelfs and and the service department says if you use anything else then vw may deny warranty. 13 bucks for a group 3 engine oil and some 30 bucks for dsg oil plus tax. A rip off for a product that is inferior to other products at a lower cost.
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507 ratings of oils. I could see as long as your car is still covered by warranty then use a 507 oil. If no warranty then a good diesel oil without the 507 BS would work fine if ones engine does not use a great deal of oil between changes. I used T6 in my 2010 that I turned in for a 2015 tdi. The T6 in the 2010 used the least amount of any oils that I every used in it. It used maybe 8 10 oz's between oil changes. My 2015 I will us a 507 only because it has a 260000 km warranty on the emissions other wise I would be using say Amsoil HDD 5W30 or the Shell T6.
I used the T6 in my 2010 tdi for some 160,000 km's or more. Each their own as to what you think is best.
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Old August 17th, 2017, 06:05   #2210
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Hey "New Mickey",

Good grief, are we still debating the whole Amsoil Cert issue from ten years ago?I posted a long novel's worth of responses on the subject myself. Now that Al Amatuzio's son and SIL are running Amsoil, I suspect they'll obtain the proper Certifications where the corporate ROI would justify it, for example with their VW 504/507 Euro Formula and BMW and Mercedes, TDI Spec oils.

FWIW, I like the new, Heavy Duty, API rated, CK-4/SN oils even better than the VW 504/507, or MB 229.51 stuff. The formulation chemistry of the "dual use" , European lubes is largely driven by the requirements of turbocharged, DI GAS engines these days (to prevent "LSPI"). So they may be less than optimal for use in modern, TDI diesels. Of course we have seen this with previous VW/Audi/Porsche lubes - specifically the VW 502.00/505.01 oils. The majority of those generated underwhelming results, based on used oil analysis....

Amsoil hasn't bothered getting VW 502.00, or VW 505.01 Certs. Since both are outdated Specifications anyway, I doubt they'll do so in the future....

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