When do we get a new TDI? 2013?
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Trbogolf
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Rumor for the Jsw is sometime in CY2013. Don't know the accuracy of that though.
GoFaster
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Next VW Golf is due 2013. No idea what will happen to the Golf wagon aka Jetta wagon at that time.
EJS
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While I can certainly understand why spending 5 minutes on this site would give one some trepidation................overall the CR is a good engine (from the consumer end). Fast, smooth, quiet, and fuel efficient. Better than the one that was in my B5.5 that's for sure
tdi90hp
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Amen brother....Amen....I am SO FRIGGIN sick of comments about what a lousy generation the CR is....you know what....my ALH was a DOG !!!!!(yeah durable but 90hp??? cmon guys...) wooooof woooof.....My CR is a ROCK STAR.....flies and it is the most fun car (more rigid, better built, better suspension, better handler, better features....just BETTER... in day to day I have ever owned....and the first guy that starts an HPFP thread outta this is gonna get flamed....by ME>...lol....While I can certainly understand why spending 5 minutes on this site would give one some trepidation................overall the CR is a good engine (from the consumer end). Fast, smooth, quiet, and fuel efficient. Better than the one that was in my B5.5 that's for sure
jgeorge
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Here-Here! Love our A3-Much more fun than my 03 golf. Gonna buy out the lease on the A3 when its time to do so. Not gonna worry about what may or may not happen.
IndigoBlueWagon
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New Golf in 2013, but it may not get here until a year later. Don't know when they're going to refresh the Sportwagen. And the Jetta sedan is only two years old so I think we're going to see that for a while.
And sorry, but my modified ALH is much more fun to drive than my stock '12 Golf. True, it's not as refined, but it's way faster and gets better fuel economy, even modified. Maybe chipping the Golf will level the playing field a bit.
And sorry, but my modified ALH is much more fun to drive than my stock '12 Golf. True, it's not as refined, but it's way faster and gets better fuel economy, even modified. Maybe chipping the Golf will level the playing field a bit.
tdi90hp
Veteran Member
just do a malone or revo on your 12 then give us an honest comparison assessment....My new Camaro SS will do the 1/4 in 13 seconds stock....some guys with 68's can do it faster....so what? I would not want a 68 bucket of bolts car anyways....Time marches on...this is the new world and this is (the CR) what we have as a powertrain and overall it is an unbelievably good one and CLEAN.....never smell smoke.....tailpipe as clean as when it was new after nearly 30,000kms....
IndigoBlueWagon
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I will get a tune, maybe as soon as next month. It'll be a Rocketchip, however. Jeff says he gets 30 HP and 50 ft./lbs. My wagon is 170/290, but at the wheels. They may be pretty close.
I like the Golf, don't get me wrong. But it does drive differently than the heavily fueled, torquey, and admittedly dirty, rotary pump cars. I'm happy to have both.
I like the Golf, don't get me wrong. But it does drive differently than the heavily fueled, torquey, and admittedly dirty, rotary pump cars. I'm happy to have both.
earlthepearl
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- 2000 New Beetle 5M, 2004 Passat 6M, 2009 Jetta Sedan (buy back), 2010 Touareg (buy back)
overall the CR is a good engine (from the consumer end). Fast, smooth, quiet, and fuel efficient. Better than the one that was in my B5.5 that's for sure [/QUOTE]
So true. I'm actually impressed with the CR as time goes on (118,000), as for durability, the jury is still out. We'll see if it can match the ALH in my NB, 358,000 and still going strong. I had a B5.5, which had some pep, and could smoke out a tailgater. But, I had to drop some serious cash to get it unchained. The wife still misses her Passat. Her memory starts to fade though, as she drives her Touareg. That's a CR too, but also another story.
[/QUOTE]So true. I'm actually impressed with the CR as time goes on (118,000), as for durability, the jury is still out. We'll see if it can match the ALH in my NB, 358,000 and still going strong. I had a B5.5, which had some pep, and could smoke out a tailgater.
But, I had to drop some serious cash to get it unchained. The wife still misses her Passat. Her memory starts to fade though, as she drives her Touareg. That's a CR too, but also another story.I really dont know what to say about a comment like this...
tdi90hp
Veteran Member
ALH vs CR or 68 SS vs 2010 SS,,,,good comparison....no? lol......
No, just that you would prefer to own a cherry 2010 SS over a cherry 1968 SS!
tdi90hp
Veteran Member
you got it! rather have my CR than an ALH and rather have my SS than a 68....call me dumb but happy,No, just that you would prefer to own a cherry 2010 SS over a cherry 1968 SS!
tdi90hp
Veteran Member
So true. I'm actually impressed with the CR as time goes on (118,000), as for durability, the jury is still out. We'll see if it can match the ALH in my NB, 358,000 and still going strong. I had a B5.5, which had some pep, and could smoke out a tailgater.overall the CR is a good engine (from the consumer end). Fast, smooth, quiet, and fuel efficient. Better than the one that was in my B5.5 that's for sure
But, I had to drop some serious cash to get it unchained. The wife still misses her Passat. Her memory starts to fade though, as she drives her Touareg. That's a CR too, but also another story.[/QUOTE]118K on a CR....not surprised...these motors will go the LONG run....
tdi90hp
Veteran Member
looks like more and more that fall 13 will launch the new 2014 MarkVII Golf on the the new MQB architecture and maybe even hybrids and new engines....PLEASE VAG bring in the Euro 170HP TDI.....
n1das
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I'm also looking at getting RC1 for my '10 JSW. Jeff says RC1 adds 30HP and 50 ft-lbs. Stock HP is 140, so RC1 will bring it to 170. I just need to work out the details of getting my ECU to Jeff so he can work his magic.
I sold my dirty rotary pump 02 Golf after getting my JSW in 2010. I'm still happy to have my 05 ATD PD JWagen with its mods.
The JSW also drives differently than the PDs.
oilhammer
Certified Volkswagen Nut & Vendor
Because nobody has for sure come up with a 100% fix for this fuel pump. And since this fuel pump is intergral with the CR engine, the whole engine gets a bad rap. It is not like you can just take the bad bit off and replace it with one that is perfect, like we did with the BHWs.
There are some other things on these engines that concerns me as well, the turbo for one.
whiplash willy
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Oilhammer, what about the turbo concerns you?
PlaneCrazy
Top Post Dawg
OK OK, I won't use the H-word! But... when your car refuses to start in relatively mild winter weather... that's a big issue. I've had 1 hard start and two serious power losses that could have caused a serious accident, due to intercooler icing.
So far the last car that left me stranded was a '94 BMW 320i... in 1995. The TDI has come close. I have no mercy for cars that leave me stranded... I can put up with lots of annoyances, but when it's cold, damp, dark, 5:30 pm after a crappy day and I want to get my 98 km commute behind me and get my arse next to my wood stove ASAP, the damned thing had better start.
Overall though I agree, apart from this issue the car is brilliant, handles, extremely well. But VW has to do a better job of supporting customers who experience serious issues.
oilhammer
Certified Volkswagen Nut & Vendor
The 2 that I have already had to replace, the 3 that needed replacement but the owner's could not or would not fix them, and the fact that one of our trusted parts vendors recently informed me that he is selling quite a few of them as well.
oilhammer
Certified Volkswagen Nut & Vendor
One guy had already had a HPFP failure, traded the car off as it was, took a loss. He'd had enough. Drives a Ford now.
The second went to gripe at the dealer, thinking they were going to get some satisfaction from VOA after the warranty. One sat at the dealer's lot for two months before they finally paid to have it replaced there. VOA gave them a $250 coupon.
The third, I have no idea. He had no money.
Of these 3 that I did NOT fix, 2 were former VW owners... neither had ever had this type of problem with their previous cars.
The second went to gripe at the dealer, thinking they were going to get some satisfaction from VOA after the warranty. One sat at the dealer's lot for two months before they finally paid to have it replaced there. VOA gave them a $250 coupon.
The third, I have no idea. He had no money.
Of these 3 that I did NOT fix, 2 were former VW owners... neither had ever had this type of problem with their previous cars.
IndigoBlueWagon
TDIClub Enthusiast, Principal IDParts, Vendor , w/
I wonder if some of these turbo failures are due to driving habits, just like they are on ALHs. We regularly sell turbos to customers who have either driven their TDI gently for too long and carboned the turbo up beyond repair, or have driven with no boost for years with the same result. Perhaps if you short shift and continuously baby a Common Rail the pressure builds in the DPF and causes turbo failure. Different process, same result. And more expensive to repair.
By contrast, look how long the turbos on A3s and B4s last. Simpler, cheaper, and more durable.
By contrast, look how long the turbos on A3s and B4s last. Simpler, cheaper, and more durable.
oilhammer
Certified Volkswagen Nut & Vendor
That probably has a lot to do with it, I agree.
nicklockard
Torque Dorque
And the icing intercooler (excessive LP-EGR) needs to be replaced with an air-to-water intercooler. Major fail.
whiplash willy
Veteran Member
So it is the non-adblue CR's EGR system that is causing the iced up intercooler issues and likely the turbo issues as well.
Oilhammer, do you recall the approx mileage of those 5 CRs that had blown turbos? What is the going rate for a turbo replacement? (I will likely need a DSG replacement before the turbo goes, just curious)
Oilhammer, do you recall the approx mileage of those 5 CRs that had blown turbos? What is the going rate for a turbo replacement? (I will likely need a DSG replacement before the turbo goes, just curious)
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oilhammer
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One had 104k miles... it was the highest. The rest were in the 60 to 80k mile range. We are only talking 2009 and 2010 cars here, so they won't be very high mileage, still too new.