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Old December 11th, 2018, 14:16   #1
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Default Michelin Premier tires: everything satisfactory minus tread wear

My experience -> everything satisfactory minus tread wear:

Vehicle: 2004 Passat Wagon TDI
Tires: Michelin Premier A/S
Size: 205/65 R15 94H
Specs: UTQG 640/A/A
Pressure (on the average): ~ 44 PSI rear, ~42 PSI front
Installed: 9/9/16
Removed: 12/11/18
Miles: 34,315
Warranty credit: $56/tire

Issue: went to rotate a third time and Discount Tire employee said the thread on the front tires is unacceptable to do so



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Old December 11th, 2018, 14:26   #2
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Installed today (12/11/18):

Tires: Michelin Defender T+H
Size: 205/65 R15 94H
Specs: UTQG 820/A/B
Warranty: 80,000 miles/6 Years



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Old December 11th, 2018, 14:33   #3
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The Premier is a better tire. Won't last as long, but the Defender essentially gives up everything else for longevity, which means it is a rock hard, loud, poor grip tire. Not a bad tire by any means, just know that you DO give something up for longer tread life.

I get a solid 50k miles from my Premiers on my B5s but they are the 15" so they'll last a bit longer anyway. In your neck of the woods (no snow), I'd have run them longer. Your photo does not look *that* bad to me. Still above the tread wear bars.
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Old December 11th, 2018, 14:43   #4
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When i begin to feel a little bit of hydroplane in heavy rain, the tires gotta go, even if they are not down to the wear bars.
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I agree, but I also tend to slow WAY down in the rain. ESP won't let the B5s do much of anything scary anyway, although I have rarely ever had it need to intervene in the rain. Snow I have, though.
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Old December 12th, 2018, 11:18   #6
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Thanks for the feedback OK and truman. I agree with these statements. Tires are a delicate balance of various important factors. Rain/wet performance is on top of my list so time will tell. We have a long trip coming up so it will be a 'good workout' for the new Michelin Defenders :-)
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I suspect you will be more than happy with Defenders
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I was wondering if a bigger tire lasts longer since it does not rotate as many times in a mile?
I have some 255/65-18 tires on a vehicle and they lasted 90,000miles. At the end of life they were hard and noisy though.
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I was wondering if a bigger tire lasts longer since it does not rotate as many times in a mile?
I have some 255/65-18 tires on a vehicle and they lasted 90,000miles. At the end of life they were hard and noisy though.
Perhaps.

The question here is that the Michelin Premiers have a different approach to tread wear and they start new with less tread than other tires they sell. Is it working? I am not sure.
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