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jason_ · Sep 9, 2017

Terry @ frost heater isn't supplying me where their kit is installed in reference to the coolant system.

Anyone have any idea? I literally have 70ft of heat tape I was going to wrap around coolant lines before the thermostat, and around the lines going to heater core.

Cut offs from work, we wrap refrigeration lines and tanks when in cold start applications....

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1854sailor · Sep 9, 2017

Have you actually spoken with Terry? All of his kits come with very good instructions... BTW, what is a "hester"?

jason_ · Sep 10, 2017

I have. He won't release documents because I haven't bought the kit in concern of the vehicle application. I did buy one for the my 09. Not this 15.

Hes refusing to work on my "used" kit, even though I discussed a signed disclaimer from both parties regarding voiding all warranty claim and such. Still no budge. And he still. Seems to forget to reply to my direct question of asking for documentation of the 15 installs/conversion.

Typos is because I'm using my phone thumb typing like a teenager, not a real man keyboard.

I have oodles of this

http://www.chromalox.com/en/catalog...eat-trace/srl-self-regulating-low-temperature

What makes it awesome is the splice anywhere, self regulating, and max circuit length.

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Jetta_Pilot · Sep 10, 2017

jason_ said:
Terry @ frost heater isn't supplying me where their kit is installed in reference to the coolant system.
Anyone have any idea? I literally have 70ft of heat tape I was going to wrap around coolant lines before the thermostat, and around the lines going to heater core.
Cut offs from work, we wrap refrigeration lines and tanks when in cold start applications....
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Have you looked into the wheel well for the spare tire? I have an extension cord in there which connects to a plug under the drivers side head light for the coolant heater. Near the fog light and part of the lower grill is where it plugs in.

MichaelB · Sep 10, 2017

Jetta_Pilot said:
Have you looked into the wheel well for the spare tire? I have an extension cord in there which connects to a plug under the drivers side head light for the coolant heater. Near the fog light and part of the lower grill is where it plugs in.

Cars sold in the US do not come with factory coolant heaters like they do in Canada. That is not an option for the OP.

Jetta_Pilot · Sep 11, 2017

MichaelB said:
Cars sold in the US do not come with factory coolant heaters like they do in Canada. That is not an option for the OP.

Did not know that. I thought Grand Rapids, Mi. is as cold as up here if not colder.

jason_ · Sep 11, 2017

And I think it should be available regardless. What if I move? Do I possibly void my warranty relocating to a colder climate?

Dealer did pull up freeze plugs, 50 and 59mm. Wonder where exactly they are located and just knock them out and put in a real block heater element?

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Ol'Rattler · Sep 11, 2017

Quit simply, buy a kit for a 2015. From a liability standpoint, the last thing Terry needs is to provide instructions so someone can Mickey Mousing the wrong kit into their car and then come back at him because of issues.

Of course he didn't give you instruction for a 2015, you have a kit for a 2009. A signed "disclaimer" would probably be thrown out in milliseconds by a court and if not, it would help prove liability on Terry's part.

1854sailor · Sep 11, 2017

Well said, Ol'Rattler.

MichaelB · Sep 11, 2017

jason_ said:
Dealer did pull up freeze plugs, 50 and 59mm. Wonder where exactly they are located and just knock them out and put in a real block heater element?

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Freeze plugs would be a first on your 2015 TDI. No previous TDI blocks had freeze plugs. Are you sure they are not for a gasser?

jason_ · Sep 11, 2017

He said if it was an unused 09 kit he would sell the conversion so it'll work on the 15.

The signed disclaimer idea was so Terry would not be held reliable, and would release him of any future issues.

And I had the dealer use the vin# for the freeze plugs. I'm repeating their answer from a phone call.

This thread needs to be locked. Mods?

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ssffnomad · Sep 11, 2017

Sell the 09' kit. Buy a 15' kit.

740GLE · Sep 12, 2017

I'd stay away from the heat tape, it may be okay for warming up in cold conditions but i wouldn't leave in on in the summer when temps climb in the engine compartment.

turbobrick240 · Sep 12, 2017

You could always go with the OE type block heater, which I assume has a threaded port somewhere. Though I think a frostheater probably has superior performance- ie heats faster/more.

Ol'Rattler · Sep 13, 2017

jason_ said:
He said if it was an unused 09 kit he would sell the conversion so it'll work on the 15.

The signed disclaimer idea was so Terry would not be held reliable, and would release him of any future issues.

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No, it would be a signed admission of fault on Terry's part. A lawyer could break the agreement pretty easily.

Just as you cannot enter into a contract with someone for something illegal my best non lawyer guess is you cannot sign away your liability responsibilities.

Good outcome. I would have asked to be sold a kit for a 2015 less the heater and thats sound like what Terry did.

Mike in Anchorage · Sep 23, 2017

jason_ said:
He said if it was an unused 09 kit he would sell the conversion so it'll work on the 15.

The signed disclaimer idea was so Terry would not be held reliable, and would release him of any future issues.

And I had the dealer use the vin# for the freeze plugs. I'm repeating their answer from a phone call.

This thread needs to be locked. Mods?

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Do the '15s have a freeze plug to use? I really do prefer those for block heaters.

1854sailor · Sep 24, 2017

There are no "freeze plugs" in the cooling system. The only plugs in the block are for the balance shafts and the balance shaft idler gear, and only one version of the EA288 engine has balance shafts. The study guide doesn't say which version that is.

Mike_04GolfTDI · Sep 25, 2017

That heat trace you mention says it has a maximum continuous exposure temperature of 85 C. The coolant at normal operating temperature is 90 C. So it wouldn't be good in this application, would it?

jason_ · Sep 26, 2017

Mike_04GolfTDI said:
That heat trace you mention says it has a maximum continuous exposure temperature of 85 C. The coolant at normal operating temperature is 90 C. So it wouldn't be good in this application, would it?

740GLE said:
I'd stay away from the heat tape, it may be okay for warming up in cold conditions but i wouldn't leave in on in the summer when temps climb in the engine compartment.

That's been mentioned and discussed, high temperatures.

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Micktrack · Sep 27, 2017

Does anyone know for sure if the VW Pre-Heater Kit will work with the 2015?

5C7-054-915-D

http://www.vwparts.com/parts-outlet-center/?pg=3

https://www.realvolkswagenparts.com...pre-heater-tdi-manual-transmission-5c7054915d

It's a listed part on VW Parts Outlet page with an application for 2011-2015 Jetta but no other cars. Was hoping it would fit the Golf Sportwagen and was wondering if anyone has tried it out yet?

1854sailor · Sep 27, 2017

Micktrack said:
Does anyone know for sure if the VW Pre-Heater Kit will work with the 2015?

5C7-054-915-D

http://www.vwparts.com/parts-outlet-center/?pg=3

https://www.realvolkswagenparts.com...pre-heater-tdi-manual-transmission-5c7054915d

It's a listed part on VW Parts Outlet page with an application for 2011-2015 Jetta but no other cars. Was hoping it would fit the Golf Sportwagen and was wondering if anyone has tried it out yet?

Probably not as the Jetta and the Golf/GSW are different platforms.

jason_ · Sep 28, 2017

What is actually in this kit? If it doesn t work because brackets are different or something stupid, I'll make brackets.....

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1854sailor · Sep 28, 2017

jason_ said:
What is actually in this kit? If it doesn t work because brackets are different or something stupid, I'll make brackets.....

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Excuse me, but why don't you simply swallow your pride, sell the '09 kit and buy the correct Frost Heater for your car?

jason_ · Sep 28, 2017

1854sailor said:
Excuse me, but why don't you simply swallow your pride, sell the '09 kit and buy the correct Frost Heater for your car?

What is your issue?

I was trying to save money, and then my question of brackets you quoted with excusing rudeness has nothing to do with frost heater.

http://www.vwparts.com/parts-outlet-center/?pg=3

https://www.realvolkswagenpart...manual-transmission-5c7054915d

Im discussing this kit.

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jerrymander · Sep 28, 2017

How much time have you spent on this, Jason?

1854sailor · Sep 28, 2017

Not trying to be rude, just practical. Good luck and let us know how your Franken Heater turns out.

1854sailor · Sep 28, 2017

jerrymander said:
How much time have you spent on this, Jason?

jason_ · Sep 28, 2017

Besides a few messages on Tapatalk, 1 phone call to dealer, and kicking the old one under the tool box, 10mins?

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jerrymander · Sep 28, 2017

Ok. Sounds good to me. Just don't forget to factor in all the time you've spent online and remember that your time is valuable, and at some point it will have become cheaper to buy a proper heater.

turbobrick240 · Sep 28, 2017

Yeah, I don't think I'd want to bodge something together on an essentially brand new car. The diagram I've seen of the OEM heater makes it look to be buried behind the intake/intercooler. And it's only 500 watts.

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