How many miles per year do you drive and what's been your MPG?Why would they sweeten the deal when there is no car on the market that can fit as much as a JSW, still get that kind of milage, not suck to drive and not cost 10+K more?
I wasn't ready to sell mine back yet, but after looking at whats available on the market and seeing these "new" tdis now available i'm considering actually buying a "new" car for the first time even though it's not new. Does anyone know if VW is planning to release TDIs in 2018? Or even a hybrid wagon?
In Canada the 2015 TDI's were about $4k cheaper than a new 2017 TSI after you factored in financing. Dealers also aren't moving much on the price of the 2017's. The way I see it, the TDI is already saving me money.It would take many, many miles before a TDI saves you $ on gas.
The lease deal is great on the S models, that's for sure. I ran the numbers and was tempted, but doesn't make sense for me to trade my GSW towards one.Since I paid $16,400 for my "new" GSW TDI S, I think there is a better value. And I have it. I'm seeing 46.5 on the first tank of fuel, not even 1000 miles on the car.
I've driven the 1.8T and it's a nice engine. But there are many situations where the TDI is much more efficient. It's a shame that the '15s may be the last of these cars.
How did you get that deal? That sounds too good to be true.Since I paid $16,400 for my "new" GSW TDI S, I think there is a better value. And I have it. I'm seeing 46.5 on the first tank of fuel, not even 1000 miles on the car.
I've driven the 1.8T and it's a nice engine. But there are many situations where the TDI is much more efficient. It's a shame that the '15s may be the last of these cars.
i'm a musician. So, a lot of time on the road. I do go kind of fast and really only average 37-38 as well, so not doing much better than gas i guess?How many miles per year do you drive and what's been your MPG?
I have a 2016 GSW TSI 5sp. The new 1.8T is a great engine, and I've averaged 37+ mpg so far, over 21k miles. It also only cost $18,425 to buy in March 2016.
The 5sp stick gets better mileage than the 6AT, but is only available in the "base" S (still has plenty of options, IMO). All 2016s get the newer MIBII infotainment, which has Android Auto / Apply Carplay - a huge upgrade over the 2015s. I also prefer the cloth seats, as I found the Vtex to be "swampy" and not breathe enough.
There is no better value for an MK7 Sportwagen than the TSI 5sp. It would take many, many miles before a TDI saves you $ on gas (don't forget cost of fuel filters, DSG service if you buy the auto, and the timing belt).
Take a test drive in one and see if its a worthy substitute for you.
YMMV
How did you get that deal? That sounds too good to be true.
how about if you decide to sell the car? which one holds the better value?How many miles per year do you drive and what's been your MPG?
I have a 2016 GSW TSI 5sp. The new 1.8T is a great engine, and I've averaged 37+ mpg so far, over 21k miles. It also only cost $18,425 to buy in March 2016.
The 5sp stick gets better mileage than the 6AT, but is only available in the "base" S (still has plenty of options, IMO). All 2016s get the newer MIBII infotainment, which has Android Auto / Apply Carplay - a huge upgrade over the 2015s. I also prefer the cloth seats, as I found the Vtex to be "swampy" and not breathe enough.
There is no better value for an MK7 Sportwagen than the TSI 5sp. It would take many, many miles before a TDI saves you $ on gas (don't forget cost of fuel filters, DSG service if you buy the auto, and the timing belt).
Take a test drive in one and see if its a worthy substitute for you.
YMMV
I don't know, and neither does anyone else. This is a huge unknown right now. Its possible the 2015 TDIs will become a "collector" car.how about if you decide to sell the car? which one holds the better value?
"True-blood" TDI owners think of 150K as just broken in. That's about when I replaced the original brake pads on IBW. it's now 15 years old with 347K on it. That's what we do.But, I profess, like most true-blood TDI owners, that I'll own my car a looong, time. I'm thinking 150k minimum, assuming that it stays reliable. At that point, who cares what value is left when selling, as I've gotten my money out of it.
I think you do, It wouldnt be nearly impossible to find the 2015 TDI with manulal transmission if it was holding the same value as 1.8TI don't know, and neither does anyone else.
"Past performance is not indicative of future results"I think you do, It wouldnt be nearly impossible to find the 2015 TDI with manulal transmission if it was holding the same value as 1.8T
Yep. Its a gamble. Its also not the same engine that has been used in past problem VWs. I hope that the worst issues are in the past.You might have noticed that your 1.8T has a turbo. And a dual mass flywheel. And a timing chain that's not known for durability. Not sure your past performance is indicative of future results, either.
You won't know until you try. I'd get a workup of the whole deal in writing emailed to you first. Make sure there are no games where the deal doesn't include destination or dealer fee. Get full disclosure of every line item.After calling to VW dealerships around the county not getting very many positives responses from the sales people, I finally contacted someone in Florida who knew of a NEW '15 Jetta TDI SE manual.
Not only did they offer the 5K manufacture's discount and 0% financing for 72 months, but also offered to fly me from Michigan to Florida, free of charge.
I was raised to think that if something sounds too good to be true - it is.
What are your thoughts?
That's a couple hundred dollar throw in on a car they're getting their end of a full MSRP sale on (the rebate doesn't eat into their cut). What about that sounds too good to be true?After calling to VW dealerships around the county not getting very many positives responses from the sales people, I finally contacted someone in Florida who knew of a NEW '15 Jetta TDI SE manual.
Not only did they offer the 5K manufacture's discount and 0% financing for 72 months, but also offered to fly me from Michigan to Florida, free of charge.
I was raised to think that if something sounds too good to be true - it is.
What are your thoughts?
Definitely a steal. In CA they are starting around 28k before the rebate (and taxes and fees) for the S. I got them down to 24.9 after taxes. Ended up doing a lease which i will buy out after buyback of my current car and end up still paying 24.3 all said and done.You won't know until you try. I'd get a workup of the whole deal in writing emailed to you first. Make sure there are no games where the deal doesn't include destination or dealer fee. Get full disclosure of every line item.
I was given a lead here that a dealer (Ourisman Bethesda VW) was doing $7.5 to $8k off msrp on stop-sale GSWs and I was suspicious.
Until I signed for $8k off my new GSW TDI. A steal, imho. So happy.
Probably the $800 doc fee they're going to tack on? I recall Florida being one of the "high" states for dealer doc fees.That's a couple hundred dollar throw in on a car they're getting their end of a full MSRP sale on (the rebate doesn't eat into their cut). What about that sounds too good to be true?
Maybe they don't understand the concept of "out the door." We bought our Passat at a dealer 200 miles away, in St. Louis. I was very polite, but made sure that the salesman understood very clearly that if there was one nickel on the invoice more than the price he quoted me, we would walk. Taxes were not an issue in this case, because we live in IL, so we paid the sales tax when we applied for title, etc.Probably the $800 doc fee they're going to tack on? I recall Florida being one of the "high" states for dealer doc fees.
^^ This!!!!Probably the $800 doc fee they're going to tack on? I recall Florida being one of the "high" states for dealer doc fees.
Most that I looked at on the lots were April-June 2015 builds on the door jam, so "almost two year old car" would be more accurate. I was thrilled to pay $8k off msrp and enjoy free financing for six years for the only year of the Mk7 TDI (and possibly final year ever) in the States. I had no real need for another car, but this deal was too good for me to pass up.Best I was quoted so far was an additional $1000 discount after the $5000 VW incentive. Still more than I want to pay for an almost three year old car.