BV50 turbo PWM acuator on a 2260VK

A430TDI

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Hi, Im from the-Netherlands and this is my first post on this great forum!

My car a Audi A4 B7 3.0TDI have a kkk borgwarner bv50 turbo whith a siemens vdo acuator. We can make a bv50 hybrid but a bv50 is not a very strong turbo, and we want to go 380ps+ horsepower.


I don't have a other turbo jet but we want a 2260VK hybrid garret which is many times better than a kkk bv50. The problem is that the garret haves a hella acuator what works 100% different than a siemens vdo acuator on my BV50 turbo whith PWM signals.


Is there a universal acuator that work whith pwm signals you can help me whith? Any ideas how to get that 2260VK working on my car together whith my EDC16 ecu?


Hope to hear from you all. Many help is Welcome!



Best Regards,


A430TDI
 

A430TDI

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More than a 100 company's specialise in turbo's, acuators, software say impossible!

I don't believe this! Must be a way to control that pwm signal.
 

hatemi

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Just get actuator from MB or BMW and use that. Should be usable after few software changes. I'm using a modofid BW actuator in my car to control vanes of s200v.
 

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Hi,

Please can you be more specified what for bmw type and acuator to get?

Also the software change in the ecu you mean?

Thank you.
 

hatemi

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Pretty much any hella actuator from edc16 ecu car should work. Uou might have to change the pwm frequency inbthe soft. You might even be able to use originlal gtb2260vk servo motor and just change the top part of the actuator.
 

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Hatemi, Thank you very mutch for your knowledge.

What part of software do you mean, ecu or acuator device? Also can a tuner just do this.

And please if possible explain what you mean whith change the top part of the acuator.

Excuse me for not understanding it.

Thank you.
 

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I believe you shound change the pwm frequency from ecu file. If the Hella actuator uses a different frequency than your original VDO actuator.

Hella actuator has two parts in it. The metal base part that has the servo motor in it and the plastic top part. Audi Hella actuator dont have the "smart" part in the top since ecu can already controll the motor directly. With our older edc16 ecus you need to use smart actuators that convert the pwm signal that ecu uses to a signal that can move the motor. MB and BMW with edc16 ecus use actuators that work in similar way as the VDO actuator.

IIRC Dieselux combined Hella dumb and smart actuators and used edc15 ecu to controll it.
 

hatemi

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Yes you can. You might need to modify the arm for more travel. And weld some stoppers on both ends of the travel of the arm before you remove it from the turbo. These actuators are very picky and they will go in fault mode if they sense too much or little travel. A mate has had his car at the dealers for adaptation of the servo a few times...
 

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Super! I think im going to look for a 2260vk turbo, a manifold ajustment and install it.

Must get this to work i pray hahaha.
Would be awesome together whith a 1800bar pump and injectors?
 

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1800bar injecrors are only ~5% larger than yours. 2000bar injectors are smaler than ours.
 

Rub87

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I would do like hannu says, just change the plastic cap on the hella actuator and leave the base as it is concerning position and linkage. Now just find a old 2056v of a om642 and put the plasctic part on your turbo.

Hannu do you know if the hella MB actuator also give a pwm feedback like the the VDO one?
 

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I haven't confirmed that yet since I decided to use the original actuator after all. With the 4.2tdi actuator I got the arm travel would have been to the wrong way.
 

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I would do like hannu says, just change the plastic cap on the hella actuator and leave the base as it is concerning position and linkage. Now just find a old 2056v of a om642 and put the plasctic part on your turbo.

Hannu do you know if the hella MB actuator also give a pwm feedback like the the VDO one?
So you mean put the top cover of a Mercedes actuator 2056v om642? and put it on the 2260vk actuator part?

this one? http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/7c44-3f-jpg.html

Is there any list of ed16 ecu`s that use a hella actuator bmw/Mercedes?
 
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Rub87

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every om642 for instance, really common engine. I think om651 will also do, volvo D5 with 2056vl.. bmw I have no idea.
 

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Johan has made an electronic actuator for me with BMW electronics on the
Audi mechanics... this will go on my modified VZK...

JW
 

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Johan has made an electronic actuator for me with BMW electronics on the
Audi mechanics... this will go on my modified VZK...

JW
Super! I asked already Johan VVT and have no clue how to fix this!

Will ask tomorrow again. Thank you for the tip!
 

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Maybe I misunderstood, but the OP (A430TDI) has a BorgWarner bv50 turbo with Siemens VDO actuator and wants to use Turbo from Garrett with Hella actuator right?
 

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Watching with interest as when i wanted to do this a year ago the only option i has was hybrid my bv50, which i did and seems good still. The 2260 would have been my choice but couldn't find anyone to sort the actuator swap?

2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst
 

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Watching with interest as when i wanted to do this a year ago the only option i has was hybrid my bv50, which i did and seems good still. The 2260 would have been my choice but couldn't find anyone to sort the actuator swap?

2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst

I'm in the same boat as you.

Who did your hybrid??
 

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330hp with bv50 hybrid is possible but not much more. With fin-turbo hybrid 323hp
 

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Using a gtb2260vk on the ASB ,BKN ..
One solution is to install a 2.7 tdi from a4 b7 ecu -(adjusting of some maps needed)
This already has and hella actuator..
One wire from ecu to servo must pe installed...
Simple..
 
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Pieman

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Using a gtb2260vk on the ASB ,BKN ..
One solution is to install a 2.7 tdi from a4 b7 ecu -(adjusting of some maps needed)
This already has and hella actuator..
One wire from ecu to servo must pe installed...
Simple..

Which EDC16 is needed???
 

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The one from 1756vk equipped early 2.7 would be my number one choice. Im unaware if there are other combinations with hella actuator and edc16 ecu
 
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