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VW MKVI-A6 Golf family including Jetta SportWagen (~ 2010-2014) Discussions area for A6/MkVI (2010-2014) Golf and Golf Wagons (Jetta Sportwagon in the USA).

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Old July 4th, 2015, 21:28   #16
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Mine started random long cranks about a week before my battery quit. Showed 12V but had no amps and would not take a charge. Battery was only 3.5 years old but I have 82k miles on it. New battery and back to almost instant starts.
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Old July 4th, 2015, 21:39   #17
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Was it random or all the time? Funny when I immediately shut the car off it restarts fast. If the battery was dying, wouldn't it do the long crank?

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Mine started random long cranks about a week before my battery quit. Showed 12V but had no amps and would not take a charge. Battery was only 3.5 years old but I have 82k miles on it. New battery and back to almost instant starts.
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Old July 5th, 2015, 06:11   #18
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There seemed to be no pattern. I first thought it was a fuel problem from letting the car sitting and not being used. Then the long cranks would show up while being daily driven. My unscientific 2 cents worth is that as the battery dies it cannot provide sufficient current to all the glow plugs thus creating the hard start.
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Old July 5th, 2015, 20:44   #19
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My 2010 jsw does this randomly. No pattern to it what so ever. My battery still tests good, and there's no pattern to it. My car sits for months at a time because I daily drive my M5 now (for some odd reason I've been enjoying the 16mpg instead of my 45+ in the Jetta) and it started today after sitting for 3.5 weeks. I drove it across my parking lot at my apt and turned it off. When I restarted it it was fine. About an hour and a half later, long crank before start. I've always wondered if it was just me.
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Old July 6th, 2015, 06:18   #20
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I want to say the batt was replaced 2 years ago with a OEM. I do see the batt light on when im cranking but I think it always is till it kicks over. doesnot crank slow...


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My 2010 jsw does this randomly. No pattern to it what so ever. My battery still tests good, and there's no pattern to it. My car sits for months at a time because I daily drive my M5 now (for some odd reason I've been enjoying the 16mpg instead of my 45+ in the Jetta) and it started today after sitting for 3.5 weeks. I drove it across my parking lot at my apt and turned it off. When I restarted it it was fine. About an hour and a half later, long crank before start. I've always wondered if it was just me.
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Old August 28th, 2019, 06:25   #21
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I know I am resurrecting an old thread but did anyone track down their cause to this?


Just picked up a '13 JSW a month ago and I've experienced a few "long cranks" with no pattern as well.


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Old August 29th, 2019, 04:58   #22
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Mine will still have a long crank, first start of the day only. Two taps on the throttle when the glow plugs are cycling before hitting the starter button again, the car fires right up.
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Old August 30th, 2019, 14:06   #23
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There was another thread and a video about this for the first start of the day.

Increased Cranking Time When Starting

DiagnoseDan - VW golf 2.0TDI EA288 long crank diagnosis
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Old August 30th, 2019, 17:28   #24
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The EA288 video doesn’t apply to our cars we dont have the VVT system the 2014 cars do.
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Old August 31st, 2019, 14:32   #25
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The EA288 video doesn’t apply to our cars we do. It have the VVT system the 2014 cars do.
Thank you for the clarification!

My car really isn't bad at all. It starts instantly during the day, but the first start can take one or more extra spins of the starter. I've decided to not let that bother me. My 2010 Golf TDI has been and continues to be a wonderful car!
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Thank you for the clarification!
My car really isn't bad at all. It starts instantly during the day, but the first start can take one or more extra spins of the starter. I've decided to not let that bother me. My 2010 Golf TDI has been and continues to be a wonderful car!
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Old September 2nd, 2019, 16:51   #27
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My new to me 2013 wagon did this as well.
A new battery solved the issue. The old battery tested well. But at 5 years old it must have been on its last legs.
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Old September 30th, 2019, 21:14   #28
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I'm having a very similar issue with my 2012 Golf Sportwagen A6. Car has 292,000 kms on it.


I bought it a year ago, and it would randomly take a long time to start, for the first start of the day. Didn't matter if it was +20 or - 20. Car always started. Maybe 1 in 20 times would require extended cranking.


This spring it got a lot worse. Now it's 1 in 2 first starts of the day.



I always let the glow plugs cycle. The car will spin and spin and spin. I stop, key off, cycle plugs and try again. Sometimes I need to do this a third time, car will start, run rough for a couple seconds, then works perfect. I have tried just spinning it over until it starts, eventually the car starts flashing low oil pressure on the dash. I don't think it's fuel draining back because I left the car parked for 6 weeks this summer while I drove my other car, and when I got back to it, the battery didn't have much juice, but it still started up right away after a few slow cranks. Car has NOT had the fix, and the condition of the DPF is unknown - car seems to run good, and gets acceptable fuel milage.


Thoughts?
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Old October 4th, 2019, 22:02   #29
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Does it look like this?

https://youtu.be/CCtTNUhlS1Y
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I'm having a very similar issue with my 2012 Golf Sportwagen A6. Car has 292,000 kms on it.


I bought it a year ago, and it would randomly take a long time to start, for the first start of the day. Didn't matter if it was +20 or - 20. Car always started. Maybe 1 in 20 times would require extended cranking.


This spring it got a lot worse. Now it's 1 in 2 first starts of the day.



I always let the glow plugs cycle. The car will spin and spin and spin. I stop, key off, cycle plugs and try again. Sometimes I need to do this a third time, car will start, run rough for a couple seconds, then works perfect. I have tried just spinning it over until it starts, eventually the car starts flashing low oil pressure on the dash. I don't think it's fuel draining back because I left the car parked for 6 weeks this summer while I drove my other car, and when I got back to it, the battery didn't have much juice, but it still started up right away after a few slow cranks. Car has NOT had the fix, and the condition of the DPF is unknown - car seems to run good, and gets acceptable fuel milage.


Thoughts?


You look at this video?


https://youtu.be/DXvHdmq0reA


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