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Old December 5th, 2011, 10:38   #1
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i have a 2002 vw jetta tdi, the transmission has been giving me trouble for a while now and i'll post problems and what i have done so far.....I heard a pop when slowing down one day, so i changed the diff, because of alot of play and also tore tranny apart and found the needle bearing in the planitary set was broke and took ot the planitairy gear....I replased that full set with a used one from a local tranny shop for a good price, after that the transmission ran great but then it started losing just drive put it in third and car would shift perfect. then if you shut car off and restarted it it would return to driving normal....so i went and bought a reman valve body with all the new updates and bigger valve( my old vb had been damaged do to metal getting into it...now to get to finail problem....i put the car in to drive nothing but put it into 3ed and back to drive will have drive for a few sec and when it goes to shift car goes to nutreal but if i put the shifter inbetween 3 and 4th so 4th shows on dash but 3ed shows on shifter car runs like there is no problems at all....i do have vag-com and no codes show...the only thing i havent changed is the brass cable for transmission but not sure that is the problem any help would be nice...this is my first post and been an aviad reader of post...
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Old December 5th, 2011, 10:43   #2
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You may need to adjust the gear selector cable.
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Old December 5th, 2011, 14:31   #3
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forgot to mention that inorder to get it in reverse i need to push the lever twords park and to get it in drive need to have it closer to third so the space between r and d needs to be les or there is some presure issue with that drive channel of the vb...
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Old December 5th, 2011, 14:36   #4
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forgot to mention that inorder to get it in reverse i need to push the lever twords park and to get it in drive need to have it closer to third so the space between r and d needs to be les or there is some presure issue with that drive channel of the vb...
I agree with Oilhammer if that is the case. It sounds like the selector cable may be out of adjustment.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 06:37   #5
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took off pan and set the manual valve in vb now i have no forward gearss in 4th at all but second i put into third car takes off no problem...
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Old December 6th, 2011, 07:52   #6
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ok after reading alot of post about this transmission i will clarifie a little better on my problem......in P the car is in park, N the car is in neutral D the car acts as it is in NEUTRAL 3 shifts through gears verified with vag com.... 2 has first second 1 has first now to the odd part if i shift from park to 1st then put it in D ill have drive till it goes to shift to second then goes back to being like its in neutral back in third it takes off ... to me it seams like a internal or presure issiue or could the issue be in my trans controler vb is new.....before i replaced the vb it would have d till car warmed up then would lose d till ignition was cycled had some codes but cleared when put in new vb
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Old December 8th, 2011, 16:04   #7
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update...now i lost all gears forward and reverse time to pull againg and see what i find this time...
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Old December 8th, 2011, 16:47   #8
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You know you are really getting into a real bucket of worms and a potential money pit with that 01M. Having 3 cars with the 01M myself I found that rather than fooling with this headache that the best and cheapest way was to go manual trans swap and never look back. I have done 2 of the 3 so far. If you can't resolve it easily you might follow the path many of us have done and do a swap. It's rather a pain to do but when its finished, it makes the car almost euphoric to drive, especially when you put in a 6 speed. The best part for me was the 8 mpg increase I realized with the manual.

Good luck on getting the 01M fixed.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 11:19   #9
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took off pan and set the manual valve in vb now i have no forward gearss in 4th at all but second i put into third car takes off no problem...
What technique/process are you using to "set the manual valve"?
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Old December 9th, 2011, 11:23   #10
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ok after reading alot of post about this transmission i will clarifie a little better on my problem......in P the car is in park, N the car is in neutral D the car acts as it is in NEUTRAL 3 shifts through gears verified with vag com.... 2 has first second 1 has first now to the odd part if i shift from park to 1st then put it in D ill have drive till it goes to shift to second then goes back to being like its in neutral back in third it takes off ... to me it seams like a internal or presure issiue or could the issue be in my trans controler vb is new.....before i replaced the vb it would have d till car warmed up then would lose d till ignition was cycled had some codes but cleared when put in new vb
This paragraph is very confusing.. starts off good and clear, but then looses puctuation and capitalization and I cant understand.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 11:25   #11
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update...now i lost all gears forward and reverse time to pull againg and see what i find this time...
Ignore my last post.... I was reading through post by post, and didn't see this one till now.

This is why some on this forum say to not rebuild the 01m yourself. Some even say it cant be rebuilt, which isnt true but speaks to how difficult they are.
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Old December 18th, 2011, 08:37   #12
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yeah i used the one that was on your site i believe coolair... and as far as the manual i would but my wife hates driving manual (manual is all i used to drive) and cool air do you know where i could find a air check plate for the transmission....cool air....the first time i took out the transmissions the problem i found was exactly like the problem you found on the transmission in your "how to diagnose your o1m" expect my reverse piston was good as i had no problem with reverse....then slowly the lost drive when car got warm but now im at the poit of having to pull it out again and will be doing that later today....is it possable my pump went out???
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Old December 18th, 2011, 19:57   #13
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Everything--anything is possible.

But if you "lost drive" I assume that means you still have reverse? Reverse needs pressure from the pump just like forward does. Actually reverse pressure is higher. A pressure gauge would tell you something.

If your saying this....
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yeah i used the one that was on your site i believe coolair...
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What technique/process are you using to "set the manual valve"?
I dont have this process/technique published on my website. So I guess I'll ask again.... How did you "set the manual valve?
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You may need to adjust the gear selector cable.
Have you done this yet?
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Old December 20th, 2011, 17:29   #15
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tonight i tore the pan off transmission to find out that the manual valve was lose and not adjusted at all so http://valvebodyxpress.com/images/pd...x%20Notice.pdf is where i found how to adjust it... and as for reverse no i had no gears what so ever but now i know it was the manual valve....

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