I see they are being sold on Adesa. Is this what you’re talking about ?
That's also the auction lot down the street from me. They used to hold consumer auctions once a month but I have no idea if they are still doing that. I have no need for another car right now.
If you go on the Adesa site it lists specific locations where they are TDI auction “hubs”. The ADESA location near my hometown isn’t listed but the one in Los Angeles is.
I don't think this is as true as your friend says. Our local dealer owner has said his profit on dieselgate car sales is from the repair and prep reimbursements plus the incentive payment he receives on each car he sells. He says he sells them not much over his auction cost. We've had a long and positive history with this dealer, so I'm inclined to believe him.
The ones I’m seeing here in CA aren’t a great deal. There is a 2014 sportwagen near me with less than 20k miles for $18k. There are a couple 2014s in southern CA on EBay with 25k miles for $16k. Maybe I’m out of touch with reality but it’s still a car that is 5 model years old thats been sitting outside in a field for the last 2 years.
Said another way, you have an opportunity to buy a low mileage car that's no longer available, and, in some cases nothing similar is available (diesel/wagon/manual transmission), for 30-40% off original MSRP, and includes a warranty that will cover just about anything that may break. Some may say that's a great deal.
I guess it depends on what you think is a “value” in today’s market. Car sales have been slow this year, across all brands. As a result dealers are trying to move 2018s that have been sitting on the lots.
That seems like a tremendous deal for a brand new car. I never shopped one of these new. If this a 2018 with a 6yr/72k mile bumper to bumper warranty then it seems hard to beat period. But I have to doubt that you can actually get OTD for that price.
This is the thing with diesels. They deliver excellent economy even in poor conditions. My last tank (admittedly in my MKIV) was 47.7 MPG which included sitting in some impossible traffic in NYC and running at 80+ on the way home. No gasoline anything would get close to that FE under those conditions.
Not literally falling apart. Multiple issues appeared about 20k miles ago and the car left me stranded for the first time. The interior itself has held up well and the drivers seat only has a couple cracks. Paint and body also in good shape for a 10 year old car not garaged.What on Earth is "falling apart" on a 2009 Jetta???? I do regular services on A5 cars that are 2005s and 2006s with well over thrice the numbers on the odometer, and they are not at all falling apart. Plus, some of those cars' issues like the door harness would have already been the updated stuff by 2009.
The only common interior things I see are the headliner, which is not a huge deal to have replaced. The dash, seats, door trim, etc. all seem to hold up perfectly fine.
If I put a piece of tape over the odometer on that 2006 and told someone to take it for a spin, they would NEVER guess it had over 400k miles on it.
A Prius will get better gas mileage than a diesel. Especially at higher speeds (80+) and in stop and go traffic. Toyota now has high compression Atkinson cycle engines in all of their 2018 cars. Their thermal efficiency is over 40%, when you combine that with a hybrid drivetrain and CVT it’s easy to average over 50 MPGs.
I think most of those "sitting in the field" cars have been snapped up. The ones I'm seeing on the trucks are all 10-14s. Those are more then likely the turned in and fixed cars that were driven up to the turn in appointment.
I’ve looked at a number of Carfax reports where there is a 1-2 year gap in history after a title change. I also saw a number of CA cars end up in MI (Pontiac Superdome?). Carfax shows an ownership change in MI, then nothing for 1-2 years until sold at auction. Then listed as dealer inventory.