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devesvws · Jul 27, 2016

So I was hoping to find a complete coolant hose kit for this 97 passat TDI...it runs really well and I was hoping to get it roadworthy with new hoses and a timing belt kit...where's everybody sourcing their new parts? especially the hose kit if they're available? I'm not sure how many hoses I have to replace but it looks to be a dozen or more? And all the hoses look to be original

tdidieselbobny · Jul 27, 2016

I think a place in Michigan-Parts Place for VW's- has kits for the hoses-I think they have an online catalog,you can also request a paper one. I'm not sure if IDParts or any of the vendors here have "complete" kits or not.

Campbellonh · Jul 27, 2016

When I replaced mine, I bought them all individually, but I have a frost-heater, so some of the OEM hoses were replaced by the frost-heater kit with modified ones, so a full hose kit wouldn't have worked for me. I got most of them from IDparts, but some I ordered from 1stVWparts.com (a dealer in Washington) because their on-line prices are so good. I had bad luck with aftermarket 3-way hoses, and finally got the last of my leaks resolved after replacing that one with an OEM hose assembly.

brendanb · Jul 28, 2016

i bought these silicone hoses: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1630565 i swear he now distributes from a bigger online VW store, i remember messaging him and he directed to somewhere else to give him $$.
rumor i heard was he makes aircraft hoses for a living and loves VW's so he makes some on the side.

i went to the dealer for the upper and lower main rad hoses.

ketchupshirt88 · Jul 28, 2016

gee-bee sold them on bora-parts after he stopped doing the sales himself... Bora is now cascade german parts.

Im sure they still sell them but i didnt see them last time i looked for them, you may have to call to get them.

Steve Addy · Jul 28, 2016

I went to the dealer for a replacement upper hose after I had trouble with the Meyle hose I got from AutohausAZ.

I don't believe a factory VW lower radiator hose is available anymore for 1Z/AHU. The AAZ and ABA lower hoses might still be available.

Steve

devesvws · Jul 28, 2016

I know this is asking a lot but does anybody have the part numbers for all the hoses available

BleachedBora · Jul 29, 2016

Actually we're working on getting all the Gee-Bee listings up right now, hopefully by end of day today. Thanks all!
-BB

PD41 · Jul 31, 2016

brendanb said:
i bought these silicone hoses: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1630565 i swear he now distributes from a bigger online VW store, i remember messaging him and he directed to somewhere else to give him $$.
rumor i heard was he makes aircraft hoses for a living and loves VW's so he makes some on the side.

i went to the dealer for the upper and lower main rad hoses.

How are they ? Do you think they are higher quality than factory ones ?
Thanks Martin

ketchupshirt88 · Aug 1, 2016

biggest reason to use them is that they don't swell up and melt apart from diesel fuel leaking on them like rubber hoses do... specifically for that 3way hose under the IP.

2nd biggest reason is because the lower rad hose is NLA but gee-bee makes a silicone one.

PD41 · Aug 28, 2016

I'm in the process of changing mine today. His name is Guy.
I ordered all 5 in red, he has different colors and gloss or mat black.
He has been making airplane engine hoses for 30 years. Here is his info;

GEE-BEE Racing
800 556 3160
Email; N77GB@MSN.COM

h2oskibum · Aug 31, 2016

PD41 said:
I'm in the process of changing mine today. His name is Guy.
I ordered all 5 in red, he has different colors and gloss or mat black.
He has been making airplane engine hoses for 30 years. Here is his info;

GEE-BEE Racing
800 556 3160
Email; N77GB@MSN.COM

I tried a set of those in black, the lower radiator hose was a perfect fit but I didn't care for the way the 2 3-way hoses fit under the injection pump so I went with the pricey OEM hoses under there since they fit much better.

PD41 · Aug 31, 2016

h2oskibum said:
I tried a set of those in black, the lower radiator hose was a perfect fit but I didn't care for the way the 2 3-way hoses fit under the injection pump so I went with the pricey OEM hoses under there since they fit much better.

I did the lower ones with Gee-Bee hoses. They fit fine. I did them and the T-stat at the same time so it was a little bit easier to get that lower rear hose on at the same time. They look pretty nice in the red color.

Ended up with a slow drip coming off the plastic oil pan cover rear clip.
Picked up a new T-stat housing and o-ring. Tomorrow I will drop the PS pump and do the T-stat again and hopefully that will cure the slow drip.

Fortunately I did a leak check with pure distilled water and no G12.
Bought a gallon of G12 at the VW dealership. 3 flushes to get out all the green antifreeze.
1 flush with tap water and now 2 with distilled.

Bob S. · Sep 2, 2016

If the system had green coolant it in, you might what to flus with Fleetguard Restore. to insure all the crud is out of the system. Then follow with the distilled water flush.

RabbitGTI · Sep 2, 2016

I drive a B4 with 279k miles and know of five other cars with between 225 and 375k and none of them have ever changed a hose. Makes me kinda nervous. Do ya usually change these when they start to leak a little or do they fail catastrophically ?

ToddA1 · Sep 3, 2016

If you're diligent about checking hoses, belts, etc, change them when they need to be changed.

I used to change everything when I got another car. Stopped that practice years ago...

-Todd

vanbcguy · Sep 3, 2016

The condition of the coolant would be my indicator. If it's getting gross and there's signs of black bits you probably have a hose failing internally. If it looks good and clean and the exterior of the hoses look good then I would feel pretty confident.

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PD41 · Sep 3, 2016

Picked up my new T-stat housing and adapter tube from the dealer.
My old hoses looked a little swelled and very old, since I just bought this wagon and plan on keeping it I figured might as well change all of them and expansion bottle.
Done 4 flushes now and tomorrow I'm going to do the stat. Green stuff is gone.

I don't like engine flush stuff, caused leaks in a car I did once.

GEE-BEE · Sep 14, 2016

There three ply silicone with nomex reinforcement, we include breeze aerospace 100 % s/s lined clamps on all hoses assys.

All material made

Made in the USA

Tegrem · Sep 16, 2016

5 Coolant Hose Replacement

h2oskibum said:
I tried a set of those in black, the lower radiator hose was a perfect fit but I didn't care for the way the 2 3-way hoses fit under the injection pump so I went with the pricey OEM hoses under there since they fit much better.

Hello Mike,
I'm planning on doing the same 5 hose replacement and now have concerns -
Good news on the lower radiator GEE-BEE hose fitting, but bad news that their 3 way hoses don't fit.
What was the issue fitting the 2 GEE-BEE hoses under the injection pump?
Were there kinks, or diameter problems, or length problems, or what?
I already bought all 5 hoses from GEE-BEE and am ready to do the R&R after I determine which hoses to use.
I don't mind paying for OEM if the fit is better - I just hate doing things twice.
Regards, Tegrem

Tegrem · Sep 16, 2016

3 Way Coolant Hoses under the Injection Pump

h2oskibum said:
I tried a set of those in black, the lower radiator hose was a perfect fit but I didn't care for the way the 2 3-way hoses fit under the injection pump so I went with the pricey OEM hoses under there since they fit much better.

Tegrem said:
Hello Mike,
I'm planning on doing the same 5 hose replacement and now have concerns -
Good news on the lower radiator GEE-BEE hose fitting, but bad news that their 3 way hoses don't fit.
What was the issue fitting the 2 GEE-BEE hoses under the injection pump?
Were there kinks, or diameter problems, or length problems, or what?
I already bought all 5 hoses from GEE-BEE and am ready to do the R&R after I determine which hoses to use.
I don't mind paying for OEM if the fit is better - I just hate doing things twice.
Regards, Tegrem

PD41 said:
Picked up my new T-stat housing and adapter tube from the dealer.
My old hoses looked a little swelled and very old, since I just bought this wagon and plan on keeping it I figured might as well change all of them and expansion bottle.
Done 4 flushes now and tomorrow I'm going to do the stat. Green stuff is gone.

I don't like engine flush stuff, caused leaks in a car I did once.

Hello Martin,
Just wondering if you had any issues with the two GEE-BEE 3 way hoses under the injection pump?
Regards, Tegrem

PD41 · Sep 16, 2016

I had no issue with the Gee-Bee hoses. The 2 lower ones went on fine. I used a silicone gel on the inside and on the plastic nipples. I think it helped them slide on.
Just got my car back from Leonard at Wild Rose (TDI master).
He pulled my injection pump and changed the o-rings, new harmonic balancer and timing belt.
He said he liked the Gee-Bee hoses when he checked them out.
When I did the hoses I did the T-stat and did the hoses at the same time.
With the power steering pump off you can see and access the lower hoses more easy.
I made the mistake of pointing the T-stat hose clamp pointing down. After I put it all back together I realized the PS pump was blocking the hose clamp screw so I pulled the PS pump off again and re-positioned the clamp at a upward angle and tightened it up from the engine compartment. Lol

Tegrem · Sep 17, 2016

Thank you for the feedback Martin, I appreciate it.
I was hoping the GEE-BEE 3-way hoses worked since I have already bought them and VW wants over $100 for both of them. Also good that Leonard likes GEE-BEE too.
Thanks also for the heads up on the T-stat hose clamp being angled upward for clearance with the PS pump.
It looks like Wild Rose is now refurbishing old Crown Vic police cars. Did you see many of them at his new shop? I’ll have to swing by there since he is close to Fry’s and not far from me.
Regards, Tegrem

GEE-BEE · Sep 18, 2016

I made these long ago for my aaz and ahu build, I never thought that others would want these, I have installed them on several platforms

Finishing a three year jetta mk1 coupe project
1.9 ahu
o2a six speed
gtb2265 / rover 300 pump

I currenty have over 7500 vw silicone hoses in production

FYI :

we include 100 % S/S breeze lined aerospace clamps on all assys

devesvws · Nov 8, 2016

GEE-BEE said:
I made these long ago for my aaz and ahu build, I never thought that others would want these, I have installed them on several platforms

Finishing a three year jetta mk1 coupe project
1.9 ahu
o2a six speed
gtb2265 / rover 300 pump

I currenty have over 7500 vw silicone hoses in production

FYI :

we include 100 % S/S breeze lined aerospace clamps on all assys

so I just contact you from the samba ad? I have a 97 passat tdi and just had the timing belt kit installed and need to get to those hoses, especially the bottom ones are bulging and yes it appears to have a small leak at the fuel pump, So these diesel fuel resistant hoses may be necessary? What hoses come with the kit? is it complete or am I going to have to search for others? I have no idea when these hoses have been replaced or if any of them are original so I don't want a catastrophe...

devesvws · Feb 7, 2017

well the hose under the injection pump started leaking so I need to find a kit asap

Steve Addy · Feb 7, 2017

devesvws said:
well the hose under the injection pump started leaking so I need to find a kit asap

Both of the small triple outlet hoses are available aftermarket. The top one is the most vulnerable but you can source it pretty easily. IDparts, Eeuroparts, AutohausAZ and RockAuto all have it I think.

Steve

Diesel_Aggie · Feb 15, 2017

This is for 96 B4. One of the plastic adapters (waternecks) is incorrect. I've ordered this twice and both times have forgotten to correct my spreadsheet. Please verify the adapters. Sorry for the poor formatting. I can't get it to work right. I'm cutting/pasting from Excel. Items in red show two part numbers in ETKA. I believe either one works.

028-121-053-Q Upper Tri-Hose
3A0-121-101-F Upper Radiator Hose
037-122-058 Lower Tri-hose to Oil Cooler/H2O Pump
3A0-121-109-E Lower Coolant Reservoir
3A0-121-447-G/535-121-447-B Upper Coolant Reservoir
037-121-121-A Adapter Thermostat
044-121-113 Thermostat 87-102 degrees
1H0-121-687-A Round Seal 28.5x3.8
037-121-619-A Adapter Lower Radiator to H2O Pump
3A0-121-619 Unknown Adapter
037-121-142-B Retainer Spring-Unknown Adapter
037-121-142-A Retainer Spring-Lower Radiator to H2O Adapter
N-016-410-1 Spring Clip-Upper/Lower Radiator Hose
N-016-403-1 Spring Clip-Tri Hose to Heater Hose & Heater Hoses
N-016-404-1 Spring Clip-Lower Tri Hose
N-016-402-1 Spring Clip-Lower Reservoir Hose
N-100-987-01 Spring Clip-Upper Reservoir Hose
068-121-132-A Flange With O-ring
1H0-819-019 Gasket-Heater Hose to Heater Core
1H0-819-371 Heater Hose
1H0-820-371-B Heater Hose With Valve
038-121-119-B Sealing Washer 50x4 Thermostat Flange & Water Pump
3A0-121-051-J Lower Radiator Hose VIN F >>3A-TE140000*
026-121-041-P H2O Pump Gasket
037-121-010-C/050-121-010-CX H2O Pump, Screws, Washers, Gasket, 50x4 Sealing Washer, Housing
037-121-005-C Water Pump

Steve Addy · Feb 15, 2017

Diesel_Aggie said:
This is for 96 B4. One of the plastic adapters (waternecks) is incorrect. I've ordered this twice and both times have forgotten to correct my spreadsheet. Please verify the adapters. Sorry for the poor formatting. I can't get it to work right. I'm cutting/pasting from Excel. Items in red show two part numbers in ETKA. I believe either one works.

028-121-053-Q Upper Tri-Hose
3A0-121-101-F Upper Radiator Hose
037-122-058 Lower Tri-hose to Oil Cooler/H2O Pump
3A0-121-109-E Lower Coolant Reservoir
3A0-121-447-G/535-121-447-B Upper Coolant Reservoir
037-121-121-A Adapter Thermostat
044-121-113 Thermostat 87-102 degrees
1H0-121-687-A Round Seal 28.5x3.8
037-121-619-A Adapter Lower Radiator to H2O Pump
3A0-121-619 Unknown Adapter
037-121-142-B Retainer Spring-Unknown Adapter
037-121-142-A Retainer Spring-Lower Radiator to H2O Adapter
N-016-410-1 Spring Clip-Upper/Lower Radiator Hose
N-016-403-1 Spring Clip-Tri Hose to Heater Hose & Heater Hoses
N-016-404-1 Spring Clip-Lower Tri Hose
N-016-402-1 Spring Clip-Lower Reservoir Hose
N-100-987-01 Spring Clip-Upper Reservoir Hose
068-121-132-A Flange With O-ring
1H0-819-019 Gasket-Heater Hose to Heater Core
1H0-819-371 Heater Hose
1H0-820-371-B Heater Hose With Valve
038-121-119-B Sealing Washer 50x4 Thermostat Flange & Water Pump
3A0-121-051-J Lower Radiator Hose VIN F >>3A-TE140000*
026-121-041-P H2O Pump Gasket
037-121-010-C/050-121-010-CX H2O Pump, Screws, Washers, Gasket, 50x4 Sealing Washer, Housing
037-121-005-C Water Pump

Some of the items in your list are NLA

Steve

Diesel_Aggie · Feb 15, 2017

Yes, quite a few are. Having the original number is helpful when trying to track down obsolete parts from dealer stock, ebay, etc. Also useful for cross reference.

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