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Upgrades (non TDI Engine related) The place of handling, lighting and other upgrades that do not relate to the performance or economy of the TDI engine. In other words upgrades to your TDI that don't fit into TDI Fuel Economy & TDI Engine Enhancements.Please note the Performance Disclaimer

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Old April 20th, 2009, 09:25   #1
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Default A Source for VW terminals.

In case anyone is interested in buying loose electrical terminals to make up harnesses etc I have found this place in England that has most in stock:

These terminals apply mainly to Passat 3B and Golf IV style contacts.

Amended link:

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.e...e/homepage.php

Go to:
"Terminals"
"Non Insulated Terminals"
"Terminals for Mouldings"

I have used them a number of times and can recommend them.

Here is a list of their direct equivalent terminals to replace the VW repair wires that are the most commonly used:

vw repair wire 000979131 = Terminal 3-8020 (used on w8 light; mini ISO connectors on MFD; oil sensor etc)

000979133 = 3-7209 (most terminals on car 1.0mm wire)

000979225 = 3-7212 (same as 000979133 but for 2.5mm wire)

000979132 = 3-8010 (male pin for 000979131 above)

0001979129 = 3-8030 (male pin for 000979133 above)

000979103 = 3-8060 (e.g. male roof harness connector for W8 light adapter)

000979227 = 3-2050 (large female pins on dash switches etc)

If you are looking for the correct "furry" tape that VW use, it is available at your local VW dealer under Part number 000 979 950 ( they describe it as "webbing adhesive tape")

High temperature harness tape for engine bay: use BMW tape (same as the VW tape used on newer cars but I cannot find a VW number for it):-

BMW Part number 61 13 6 902588


Terminals required for relay plate:

Repair wire for pin 1, 3, 7 and 9 (smallest terminal) in relay plate:
1.0mm 000 979 133 (3-7209)
2.5mm 000 979 225 (3-7212)
Repair wire for pin 2, 5 and 8 (medium terminal) in relay plate:
1.0mm 000 979 135
2.5mm 000 979 227 (3-2050)
6.0mm 000 979 407
Repair wire for pin 4 and 6 (largest terminal) in relay plate:
1.0mm 000 979 114 (3-7000) Also available from Porsche with part number 999 650 103 12
2.5mm 000 979 212

6.0mm 000 979 405


I cannot find anyone who has the very small 000979009 equivalent for cluster wires.

Please let me know a source if anyone finds one!

Now you can make your own harnesses like factory without all the extra splices required if you use the VW repair wire!

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Old April 20th, 2009, 12:52   #2
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Good find! Thanks for posting this!

I've found that, at least here in the States, that a visit to a U-Pull-It type junk yard with a pair of wire cutters under a dash can yield double fist-fulls of 'repair wires' for cheap. Not as nice as your source for terminals, but an inexpensive source nonetheless.
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Old April 20th, 2009, 18:53   #3
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That URL gives me nothing but a 404 error. :-(
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Old April 20th, 2009, 20:01   #4
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Same here, unfortunately. It's missing some terms, I think, where the "..." is.
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Old April 20th, 2009, 20:29   #5
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http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.e...ldingterms.php

I think that would be the URL.
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Sorry about that link.

Main link is

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.e...e/homepage.php

Go to:
"Terminals"
"Non Insulated Terminals"
"Terminals for Mouldings"

I forgot to mention, they also sell multicoloured wire strands so you can even match the factory wiring colours.

There is another place in America that may be cheaper:

http://www.masterdistributors.com/

(Onlinecomponents.com)

I have also bought terminals from them but you need to know the precise AMP Tyco part number

The only one I have found was:

http://www.masterdistributors.com/or...cfm?pr=2372191

which is the "gold plated" version = 000979131A (which I am using for the oil sensor plug).

I had to buy 100 to get the 3 I wanted, so if anyone is looking for some of these...PM me.
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Old April 21st, 2009, 05:47   #7
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LOL... graeme - did you know you were reposting yourself?! Check the last post here:
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=188187

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LOL. I have mentioned them before.

This is just a nice summary of which actual connectors you need.
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How are you crimping the terminals - do you have a proper die, or doing it by hand? Just wondering if doing it by hand (i.e. needlenose pliers?) is sufficient.
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I bought a handheld crimper, but you need to find the right type that is designed to curl these bare terminals over properly.

I bought a Utilux 147A/1 -"Uninsulated terminal crimp tool":

It looks like this :



One side of jaw is " ( " shaped and the other is " 3 " shaped so it rolls the two sides of the terminal in like the factory ones.

Looks totally factory when you are finished.
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How do you know what P/N's to order from the Master site?

I need a bunch of terminals:

Regular radio/light switch style
The "double" of those link in the back of the hazards switch
Some female "box" pins for the cluster
And a hand full of the other size pins (the smaller one that still look like the radio pins, etc)

Any help would be appreciated!
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Sorry, I don't know the AMP/TYCO numbers at all.

That's why I get them from UK.

Plus you don't have to order a minimum number of connectors either from them.

Unless you can download a TYCO catalogue and actually measure the connector you have and find a match in the catalogue.

That's how I found the correct gold plated 000979131A equivalent connector.
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I need help with a 95 MKIII GTI... would like to know the correct terminals to use in the round housing from the ecu to the injector wire harness? I'm new to VW's and any help would be appreciated!
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I'm looking for some:
-000979133 (3-7209) and
-000979129 (3-8030)
Which are apparently among other uses headlight connector terminals.
Anybody have them near or have a good place to buy them ?
VWP gives me a 404 error...
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I'm looking for some:
-000979133 (3-7209) and
-000979129 (3-8030)
Which are apparently among other uses headlight connector terminals.
Anybody have them near or have a good place to buy them ?
VWP gives me a 404 error...
Thanks
I have a sh!tload of them, and I'm in Canada...

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=247418

Let me know,
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