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Old January 23rd, 2019, 09:59   #9166
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I think some places that stop diesels are setup like a DUI checkpoint. And depends on the people running it. With Diesel being their business they tend to know what vehicles are out there, at least more than the average cop.

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Old January 23rd, 2019, 10:09   #9167
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While I was trying to find out if CA has these type checkpoints, I discovered that in Ireland, it is green dyed diesel that is illegal for road use. Kind of ironic for the "Emerald Isle".

Meanwhile, the only diesel checkpoints in CA I found so far were for emissions testing.

Edit. Found a site where the California Air Resources Board issued a notice in 1995 saying the ARB is contracted with the IRS to perform these dye checks on diesel trucks but it doesn't mention passenger cars. Even during smog tests on my TDI, the fuel wasn't checked.
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Old January 24th, 2019, 05:17   #9168
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Since we’re all on this tax and dye subject, because nobody seems to be doing funny or stupid things at the diesel pump lately. What is the result/penalty/fine for running %100 WVO or as one current thread is asking “black diesel” or homemade biodiesel?

I realize some run a percentage of diesel mixed with their choice of alternative fuel and with the exception of black diesel would probably dye their fuel somewhat green.

If you get a fine for running red diesel because you’re not paying any tax, what about these other guys running some type of home brew. They’re not paying tax either. Are they treated to an exception like the %100 electric vehicles?
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Old January 24th, 2019, 07:21   #9169
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What is the result/penalty/fine for running %100 WVO or as one current thread is asking “black diesel” or homemade biodiesel?
Just as illegal, but it is exempted by the amount of smug you can emit while doing so. (yes south park reference, not typo)

Fuel additives are exempt from road tax, and in MN at least there is no upper limit on percentage, so the 85% waste oil 'lubricity additive' is a-ok. I don't think I'd run gasoline in a diesel without such an additive.
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Old January 24th, 2019, 07:31   #9170
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Awesome. High five.

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Old January 24th, 2019, 10:23   #9171
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Just as illegal, but it is exempted by the amount of smug you can emit while doing so. (yes south park reference, not typo)



Ha ha ha ....well put
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Old January 24th, 2019, 11:26   #9172
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I did hear of someone in upper mid-west getting dragged into court and fined for running home brew bio-d. Probably would have been fine but someone opened their big mouth...

You have to have a tax document and pay road taxes on fuel used over the road for vege kits or home brew Bio-d. Depends state to state, but my take on it right now the situation is "don't ask, don't tell". Most governments have better things to do than run down a few how brew people. But make it very public about your operation and you may get a visit from the tax man.

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Old January 24th, 2019, 18:06   #9173
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I've asked at the DMV a few times how I'd pay fuel tax separate of buying fuel, they just look at me confused as heck until I relate it to red diesel, then they still don't have answers but they turn their righteous indignation knob up a couple clicks.

Oh well.
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