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Old July 19th, 2015, 08:13   #1
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Default Miles Before DSG Clutch Replacement - Estimate or Actual

How many miles do you all think the DSG clutch Pak will last?
Anyone wear out their DSG clutch yet? Yes, miles
Related note how many DMF issues on the DSG vs. Manual.

The fact it is dual clutch, a multi layer pack it should last a long time,
provided driving mostly highway and not stop and go. There is friction
plate material that will wear.
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Old July 19th, 2015, 08:20   #2
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Do a search here and see if anyone has posted anything about a DSG clutch failure.
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Old July 19th, 2015, 10:09   #3
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205K on my '06 and no issues with the clutches. Replaced the DMF at about 200K
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Old July 19th, 2015, 19:22   #4
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Dmf is the week spot on both manual and DSG transmissions. Most of the time the Dmf needs replaced long before the clutches do.
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Old July 19th, 2015, 19:58   #5
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FWIW we have almost zero demand for DSG clutches. They seem to last pretty well. Flywheels? That's another story.
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Old July 20th, 2015, 01:03   #6
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...sure agree with 'brakes are cheaper than a clutch'......................

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Old July 20th, 2015, 07:24   #7
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My DSG 2009 DSG Sportwagen has towed etc and the flywheel was replaces at 240,000 miles, but I have noticed not one problem with the DSG or the clutches.
I think that the dual clutches live a fairly easy life and since they are wet they will last a long time.
Even when towing the gearing is so low in first and the engine and the transmission are matched so closely in speed along with the action of the oil cushioning and cooling the discs I think they are good to go for the long haul. I wouldn't waste much time worrying about them. The DMF is another story and I think that idling is as big a problem as driving for it.
Oilhammer has a=said he would worry more about Canada attacking the US than the DSG transmission and I this I agree with him.
I also think that all of the worry about towing with the DSG is also unwarranted.
Of course if you go out of your way to Raw-Dog the car then you can generate problems with any part of it!
I think to some extent this a the reason for some of the problems we see here.
Not included it that observation are the HPFP, DMF. A/C, Sunroof, etc. that are unrelated to driving stress, but are still a PITA.
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Old July 20th, 2015, 12:31   #8
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...sure agree with 'brakes are cheaper than a clutch'......................

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Just about the stupidest statement I have ever heard. Downshifting causes close to Zero wear on a clutch, so the idea that coasting in neutral and using the brakes to slow down is completely bogus as far as clutch wear is concerned.
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Old July 20th, 2015, 12:38   #9
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I've replaced a couple that were worn to the point there was slippage, and the M-unit knew it. 1/4 million + mile cars, though.

I've also had to replace the clutches because the input shaft was so beat up from the DMF splines stripping out. But those were not slipping.

I have also had to replace them due to the clutch cover cracking and spewing fluid out the bellhousing.

You'll likely have to replace the DMF a couple times before the clutches actually wear out, if they ever really do.

Most will last a very, very long time.
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the OH"s word does carry a lot of weight around here. Certainly a lot more that my feeble attempts at the truth.............
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Old July 22nd, 2015, 16:40   #11
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I just replaced mine under 60,000 miles 2011 tdi. Under warranty but the dealer charged me $368 +tax for service it first and replace the fuel filter as it was told from the corporate. The only thing I didn't pay was the clutch. They didn't do any flywheel replacement.
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Necro bump. I know my car is a 2009 so technically an A5 but anyway.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=492429

Apparently VW thinks the lifetime on clutches is less than the 160k i have on my car because they are refusing to fix it under a warranty that I have confirmed does cover my transmission and MU. I was told that the warranty is written in a vague manner so it is at their discretion as to what they will cover in the transmission as it is related to the extended emissions warranty.

So there you have it, clutches are only good for 163281 miles.
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250k miles now and it has started to chatter only on cold startup then goes away at operating temp. I can't believe it's lated this long since it's been deleted and tuned since 75k miles and cr170 since 200k
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Necro bump. I know my car is a 2009 so technically an A5 but anyway.
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=492429
Apparently VW thinks the lifetime on clutches is less than the 160k i have on my car because they are refusing to fix it under a warranty that I have confirmed does cover my transmission and MU. I was told that the warranty is written in a vague manner so it is at their discretion as to what they will cover in the transmission as it is related to the extended emissions warranty.
So there you have it, clutches are only good for 163281 miles.
I've read their new warranty and they specifically disclaim the entire transmission. There's nothing vague about it. It says the warranty covers anything that causes the MIL to illuminate, OTHER than the transmission.
Sorry that they chose to do this, but it wasn't much of a surprise.

They have never wanted to cover anything on the transmissions and if they could sell cars without any warranty at all - they would. This extended warranty is being forced on them by the settlement, or we would ALL be completely out of luck.
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...sure agree with 'brakes are cheaper than a clutch'......................
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That is too funny. If you could somehow never have to take off from a stop a clutch would last about a million miles even with down shifting.

Torching your brakes by not down shifting and coasting in neutral up to stops is not saving any wear on a clutch.
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