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Upgrades (non TDI Engine related) The place of handling, lighting and other upgrades that do not relate to the performance or economy of the TDI engine. In other words upgrades to your TDI that don't fit into TDI Fuel Economy & TDI Engine Enhancements.Please note the Performance Disclaimer

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Old January 11th, 2019, 14:14   #3361
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I am pretty sure VW or Westfalia wouldn't have any modules for the MK4 cars. The supporting systems just aren't in the cars to monitor all the bells and whistles.

You mean like this for my wagon? The wiring kit is: Part number: 321457300113



https://www.westfalia-automotive.com...223900113-356/


You can find your particular vehicle via this page:


https://www.westfalia-automotive.com...-konfigurator/
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Old January 11th, 2019, 14:28   #3362
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Thanks romad, I went there and they don't list the Beetle at all. I picked the Golf Hatch MK4 from their list.

The wiring kit looks like a the basic wiring set to connect the lights and the brake controller. I am sure there are differences with the European trailer wiring kits. My kit used a combination to connect the brake controller and also the lights. I left out the battery charging wire because of the demand loads that the trailer will pull with my 4x6 volt batteries.
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Old January 11th, 2019, 14:53   #3363
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Yes you're both correct. Haha I should've looked at your sig and saw that it was an mk4.


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Old January 14th, 2019, 08:02   #3364
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Just for the record @PB_NB the new Beetle did have CAN bus, it just didn't do much in the early years like a '99. By the '03/'04 CAN bus did more and you could actually integrate some control modules more like the newer cars.

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Old January 16th, 2019, 12:09   #3365
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Default 2" Adapter for Bosal Tow Bar

Rather than duplicate a post, here is a link:


http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.p...postcount=3031
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Old January 21st, 2019, 17:32   #3366
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Default Bosal Tow Specs: Swan Neck vs 2" Receiver Adapter

I'm curious as to why the Bosal Swan Neck is rated at 1600 kg (3520 lbs) trailer and 75 kg (165 lbs) tongue weight while the 2" Receiver Adapter is rated at 1580 kg (3500 lbs) trailer and 158 kg (350 lbs)?


Calling the trailer specs a wash, it looks like I can have a higher tongue weight if I use the 2" Receiver Adapter with a 2" ball mount and a 2" ball.


Another perplexing spec is that with a bike mount the 2" receiver tongue weight drops to 55kg (158 lbs); why would that happen?
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Old January 21st, 2019, 17:51   #3367
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I had wondered that myself, doesn't seem to make sense. If you had a trailer that weighed 3,500 lbs and it only produced 165 lbs on the tongue. I would think that you would have an extremely fishtailly (not a real word) trailer.

If your limit for the bike rack is 55kgs, that is more like 121 lbs. This could be to extra forces applied by the bouncing load that tend to hang out further. You will have a tighter connection in the 2" receiver all working on the quick release connection.

If you use the swan neck on the trailer, the receiver ball will move in the trailer connector relieving some of those forces.

The part that I don't get is the 2" receiver adapter with 350 lbs. Seems like a similar situation to the bike mount.
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Old January 21st, 2019, 18:38   #3368
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I was given this explanation for the reduced rating for a bike carrier:


Some quick geometry - a right triangle with one side 8" the other side 32" will have a hypotenuse of approximately
33". Any weight or force acting on the top of the bike rack applies this force to the connection point through
the 33" lever arm....
100 lbs at 8" = 800 in/lbs or 66.6 ft/lbs.
100 lbs at 33" = 3300 in/lbs or 275 ft/lbs

Still roughly a 4 times multiple...




That does make sense to me.
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Old January 24th, 2019, 10:46   #3369
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I'm not sure that using the 2" adapter would result in a higher tow rating. On a Bosal or Westy hitch, I wouldn't excede the tow rating written on the bar no matter what snaps into the receiver. Europe's really particular about some of their towing specs. Even the swan necks between different hitch models have different part numbers, so that they reach a specific height on different vehicles, and I bet the right one has to be tested with each hitch.

I would assume that the tow ratings on the side of the 2" adapter refer to whatever vehicle the adapter was designed for (i.e Tesla) and aren't for the adapter per se, or at most refer to its maximums and not the tow vehicle's. I think the tow bar itself would fail before the swan neck or 2" adapter would.
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Old January 29th, 2019, 05:20   #3370
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I had a busy weekend. First, I unloaded 22 bags of Sakrete from my stranded cargo trailer and put it into my baby trailer to be returned to Lowe's. The trailer weighed 1850 lbs like this...



My trip to Lowe's was only four miles on a quiet Saturday morning. After dropping those off, I then proceeded to remove ~3000 lbs of soil/gravel mix that I accidentally allowed to be used as fill after a driveway project. Here is the heaviest of those three loads...



Those loads each traveled 40 miles to two homes. I may even remove another 1000 lbs. Next, I'll be regrading the lawn to see if I can refill the driveway backfill area with excess soil from other areas. If not, then I'll be visiting a nursery to bring home fresh top soil.

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Old January 31st, 2019, 17:20   #3371
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I love your trailer and the things you do with it! My new 2015 Beetle won't even take a hitch though so no towing there can be done. Looking to buy an old pickup truck for this kind of duty though.
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Old January 31st, 2019, 17:31   #3372
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I love your trailer and the things you do with it! My new 2015 Beetle won't even take a hitch though so no towing there can be done. Looking to buy an old pickup truck for this kind of duty though.
I'm pretty sure there's hitches for beetles?
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Not mine. Checked already. The def tank is in the way. At least not in the US. Too limited a run for them to make one now I am told. Maybe Europe or custom but not willing to go that route.
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Ahh - I forgot about the DEF, sorry for the confusion.
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Forgot to post this a few weeks ago when I did it...

I relieved the adapter so it could slide in closer to the car. Ended up removing about 1/2" of material and gained (lost?) ~1.5" of length.

The corner is radiused with a 1/2" tool and blended in so no stress concentrations worse than it came with.



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