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TDI Conversions Discussions on converting non TDIs into TDIS. More general items can be answered better in other sections. This is ideal for issues that don't have an overlap and are very special to swaping engines.

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Old August 26th, 2017, 08:13   #1
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Default Land Rover 300tdi Radiator in a Samurai diesel

Do you guys think a 300 tdi radiator will cool a Suzuki Samurai with a VW 1.9 tdi engine?
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Old August 26th, 2017, 14:14   #2
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Definitely. The Land Rover had a 2.5L diesel with more power than a VW TDI plus the radiator had to deal with a much heavier vehicle. If it'll fit in the Suzuki it'll definitely be suitable for the job cooling wise.

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Old August 26th, 2017, 14:31   #3
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I can get you some measurements when I go into work on Monday. They will be smaller because they share a space with a small intercooler but they are not really attached to the radiator in any way
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Old August 27th, 2017, 01:15   #4
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That would be awesome.
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Old August 29th, 2017, 13:52   #5
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I was wondering if you had chance to get a measurement of the radiator
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Old August 29th, 2017, 16:02   #6
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what about using a performance sammi rad ? no brainer
on fitment and the tdi prob needs less capacity than a stock
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Old August 29th, 2017, 16:25   #7
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On the Samurai forums they are saying they are not enough.
There only a single pass radiator where the vw is a double pass.
There a few on there that are using the the 300tdi radiator and they are working well.
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Old August 29th, 2017, 16:55   #8
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On the Samurai forums they are saying they are not enough.
There only a single pass radiator where the vw is a double pass.
There a few on there that are using the the 300tdi radiator and they are working well.
are these guys installing older 1.6 or 1.9 idi engines ? a tdi produces less waste heat than these old lumps ... that could be the issue using a stock cooling system but i'm no samurai expert
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Old August 29th, 2017, 21:12   #9
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I apologize I didn't. I set a reminder for myself to get that in the morning.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 00:19   #10
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are these guys installing older 1.6 or 1.9 idi engines ? a tdi produces less waste heat than these old lumps ... that could be the issue using a stock cooling system but i'm no samurai expert
The IDI stuff definitely generates a lot more heat in the coolant faster. At full load (keeping in mind there's a lot more output at full load on a TDI) I don't think their requirements are that different. If this is an off road machine that'll be working hard you'll likely be in the same ballpark for radiator needs.

Lots of rad shops can build something for you, if they really rebuild / make rads there. If they just open a box they probably can't help you.

The most budget approach would be to hit the wrecker looking for the thickest core you could fit in the measurements you have. Grab something cheap from the wrecker for mockup, get a good radiator for that application to use once you run it.

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Old August 30th, 2017, 03:06   #11
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This is my thought process on this.
The radiator that in it now is about 23 long and 13 tall It out of a vw 1.6 td.
The way it mounts it has a good part of the radiator sitting above the grill shell and is very easy damaged.
If the rover radiator is less than 22 wide and less than 20 inches long it will fit inside the grill shell adding more protection for the radiator plus more air flow if mounting more forward.
One of my problem is the steering gear located on the left side frame rail.
If this radiator can cool a 2.5 diesel in Africa it should have no problem cooling this engine.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 03:11   #12
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The other aspect of this radiator is this,
It has both inlet and outlet on the driver side like a vw,
It has a threaded hole in the top of the radiator to add coolant and be able to check it.
Another thing it has is a built in oil cooler in it. I thought the bungs were for a automatic trans. I spoke with a Rover guy yesterday and he told me those bungs were for a oil cooler.
It did not come automatic.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 03:16   #13
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Most of them are using the 1.6td and the 1.9 aaz.
There a couple of them using 1.9tdi.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 05:48   #14
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I finally got a answer out of the distributor on the dimensions of the radiator.
Length 20.955 inches
Width 2.80 inches
Height 16.74 inches
The part is a bearmarch bp2275r
This will allow me to mounted in the grill shell and give me a little over a inch of left to right movement
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Old August 30th, 2017, 07:26   #15
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It is a cross flow radiator.
They cannot confirm if it is a single pass or dual pass radiator.
I bet it is though.
I order one and I am going to try it.
It was 155$ delivered
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