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TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

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Old July 27th, 2017, 09:18   #1
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Hey guys,

Currently doing some research on future upgrades for my BEW. First is going to be clutch and lsd, with turbo, exhaust and intercooler coming down the road.

I live in Canada so sourcing parts here is a plus. I came across this turbo but can't seem to be able to find much in the form of real world reviews. Can anyone provide some insight on this turbo? Is it a solid upgrade for the BEW? This is my daily driver so not shooting for the moon power wise. A reliable 150+ would be great. What is this turbo capable of?

http://www.chunkymonkeyparts.com/ALH...ger_p_491.html

Otherwise I do see that this website also has the darkside gtb1756 budget kit. Maybe that's an alternative for me although more $$$$$$. But if I'm going to be much happier it may be worthwhile.

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Old July 27th, 2017, 09:36   #2
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That appears to be JB Morrison
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Old July 27th, 2017, 12:34   #3
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For 150hp, I would go with the proven vnt-17 and a tune. Simple as that. Your left over $$ can be used for a larger SMIC. It is plug and play and supports 170-175hp running at 26psi

vnt-17 with all installation hardware (oil line, 3 bar MAP, gaskets, etc.) can be had for under $1,000 USD. It's an excellent daily driver
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Old July 27th, 2017, 13:07   #4
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Vnt 17 is definitely an option I'm considering as well.

Still curious about this thing and where it falls in the turbo lineup though. I like to consider all available options before making a decision. Must be someone out there running one of these!
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Old July 27th, 2017, 17:27   #5
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Old July 27th, 2017, 17:59   #6
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Wouldn't bother with a SMIC at those power levels. IIRC, stock Injectors are only good to around 150 whp. Also, if you have some mileage on them, I'd say 300K plus, start saving for new ones. Mine had 380 on them and were done, put PD150's in and holy crap, new car.
Also, for a BEW, you'll need a tune to delete the electric turbo actuator, outlet pipe adapter and a different EGR pipe if you want to keep the EGR system.
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Old July 27th, 2017, 18:37   #7
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vnt-17 with a Malone stage 4 tune is my favorite set up. Quick and easy 150-160hp depending on supporting mods. Maybe someone else will chime in on the turbo your looking at.

I went with Bosio PowerPlus 1043 nozzles on my daily driver and it was a major difference from stock. Easily maxes out my vnt-17. Another member put down 183hp with the same nozzles and turbo http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.p...27&postcount=5


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Old July 28th, 2017, 10:48   #8
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Having a VNT-17/22 myself, I'd go with the budget GTB1756VK kit from Darkside if I could do it over again. This way if you get the itch to upgrade later on it's fairly easy to install some larger injectors and have your tuner retune your car for the upgrades you made.
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Old July 28th, 2017, 13:06   #9
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You should probably either save some money and go the vnt17 route. Or go all in and get the GTB1756vk darkside kit. I wouldn't go half way if you are going to pay big bucks. Personally I like supporting mods I would do the vnt17 and as many supporting mods you can afford. Sounds like you have some of the goods already planned clutch, lsd, intercooler. I would get injectors before going massive on the turbo, but this is just me. I also like full boost at 2k rpm so I guess I just like smaller turbos.
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I'm surprised anyone still has that turbo. Parts for the cold side haven't been available for a few years. I ran one on my ALH for a long time and liked it a lot, but I think there are better options available if you want to go big.

I'd go with a VNT-17 and a Stage 3 tune with a 2.5" downpipe, no CAT, and perhaps a larger side mount intercooler. You'll get a solid 150 HP and the car will drive like stock until you put your foot in it. Also, that turbo is plug and play.
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I'm surprised anyone still has that turbo. Parts for the cold side haven't been available for a few years. I ran one on my ALH for a long time and liked it a lot, but I think there are better options available if you want to go big.

I'd go with a VNT-17 and a Stage 3 tune with a 2.5" downpipe, no CAT, and perhaps a larger side mount intercooler. You'll get a solid 150 HP and the car will drive like stock until you put your foot in it. Also, that turbo is plug and play.
this has a billet wheel, so not quite the same as the old 17/22
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But the compressor housing isn't available either. Wonder where that's coming form.
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But the compressor housing isn't available either. Wonder where that's coming form.
checking out the pics it looks like a knockoff casting, so the backplate probably is too, been wanting to try the billet wheel version of the 17/22 .. i have one 17/22 core and two 17 cores collecting dust
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I would contact Frans at Dutch Auto Parts, he has 17/22's for $975.00 and that price includes shipping see post #3.
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Old July 30th, 2017, 18:05   #15
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Hey guys,

Just wanted to say thanks for all of the input. Also here is the explanation I received from the vendor in case anyone else is curious:


"Hello,

The 1752 hybrid, is basically just a 17/22 turbo by another name. Garrett discontinued making the compressor housing (GT22) and thus ended the 17/22 from Garrett. This turbo is manufactured by a Turbo rebuild shop in the UK, they never used the 17/22 terminology on that side of the pond.

I didn't want to confuse customers or miss lead them either into thinking these where the 17/22 from Garrett (well a Garrett distributor who was manufacturing them). These turbos at times can feature different compressor housings. Depending on what is available at the time of the turbo build. They will all still look like the picture, but some are from Volvo (has Volvo embossed on the housing) or can have a Garrett embossed, or just plain.

These perform just as the 17/22 Turbos do, both good and bad. I have had both. For the cost difference in a daily driver I personally preferred the VNT 17. In a BEW with a chip tune, and a VNT 17 150hp is possible on stock injectors. The turbo bolts on right in place of the KP - 39 with no fuss or mess. The 17/22 requires a custom outlet (from turbo to lower "pancake" pipe) hose, which can make life difficult.

Hope this helps a bit

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