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TDI Conversions Discussions on converting non TDIs into TDIS. More general items can be answered better in other sections. This is ideal for issues that don't have an overlap and are very special to swaping engines.

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Old September 20th, 2016, 16:24   #46
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Brian, email me. I've downloaded a massive amount of VW repair data from ERWIN (I paid for it... comes with "re-printing rights").

The wiring/component locations PDF is 958 pages of stuff for the B5/B5.5. About a 40 MB file... But, it's searchable. All in DIN standard, of course... just like a Bentley manual, as ERWIN was exactly where Bentley was getting their information from and mostly reprinting it verbatim...
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Old September 20th, 2016, 16:37   #47
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From a quick glance, they actually put all engines in the same wiring diagram for the auto trans. There are a couple minor production differences through the years, so depending on the month/year of the receiving car's production, that could be part of the issue, but no real difference on the TCM wiring side when comparing different engines.

While DIN standard diagrams are a bit dizzying to go through, following tracks onto different pages and the like, the amount of information in them is pretty excellent. In particular I like how every terminal/connector on a wire track is listed with information on where that connector is located, what color it is and what pin number the wire is going through.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 05:43   #48
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I wonder if the bricked ABS controller was fruiting up something on the car I tried the GMR TCM in. I had it unplugged because when they are plugged in the generic OBD communication our state tester uses will not communicate. VCDS of course has no problem with the dead controller on the CAN bus, but I guess the side that the generic part works with gets flaked out.

Not sure why that would have anything to do with anything... and of course I have already put that car all back together now (save the still bricked ABS module ).

I really need to sell some of these extra cars, LOL.... and I am maybe going to buy this 2010 Wolfsburg Jetta with a lunched CCTA engine that has been left here for over a month, too.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 08:25   #49
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I just got a 2004 Passat 1.8t 4motion to PD130 swap running and on the road. I made mine into a 6 speed 01E.

The only thing I need to figure out is the wiring for the J17 fuel pump relay.

There are only 2 wires you need to change in the plenum connection to get the engine to fire up.
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Old September 23rd, 2016, 08:16   #50
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sell me the 2010 jetta! i Love doing the CCTA head swaps. Down to a science at this point. i did 3 last month!

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Old September 23rd, 2016, 08:20   #51
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sell me the 2010 jetta! i Love doing the CCTA head swaps. Down to a science at this point. i did 3 last month!

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Oh this one would need more than a head.
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Old September 23rd, 2016, 12:21   #52
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i have 2 core heads and a good block! if you want to make a few $$ and wanna off it. let me know
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Old September 23rd, 2016, 12:38   #53
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Here is the crashed car still on the trailer. I have to get some more pieces out of it.

Here's my Sport Utility Variant, patiently awaiting its TDI transplant (and probably leaving an oil stain under it from the leaky AWM ):

The Vanagon behind it would also like a TDI transplant, but it is already a diesel (and a manual ) so that might be a bit easier!
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Haha, yeah never a shortage of used 15" steelie wheel covers it seems.
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They seem almost impossible to find around here along with rust free 15in steelies.
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 05:55   #56
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Brian, I have some A4 Quattro driveline parts available if you want to convert to 5 speed manual - gearbox, rear diff and subframe assembly, and axles. I don't have a spare 3rd pedal or shifter though. PM me if you want it, maybe I'll trade you for your free Beetle if you still have it If I remember correctly the Audi donor was a 1.8t gasser.

Brian, what all do you have? The more I think about this, the more I think the manual conversion route is the way to go. I wanted to keep it an automatic because I wanted to keep the cost down and work with what I have, and since the current slushbox is in perfect working order and has been well maintained, I thought it best to just stay the course with it.

But if it is just going to be too much of a headache to make the gas trans work with the diesel.... and I am certainly not about to try and source a Euro diesel auto trans I may as well just go manual.

Tall gearing is not a priority, as this vehicle is not likely to be going on many long distance Interstate trips anyways.
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Bear in mind that the rear end of a B5 A4 is completely different to a B5 or 5.5 Passat. The Passat is actually based on a narrowed C5 A6 floorpan so only the gearbox would be of any use. You'd need a propshaft from a manual B5.5 4mo and could use the rear diff from a C5 A6 if yours is the wrong ratio.

In theory its possible to put the guts of a long-nose B5 A4 diff in to the casing of a short-nose B5 /5.5 Passat / C5 diff since they are derivatives of the same stuff but I've never tried it.
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Depends on the year though, doesn't it? I know the rear suspension is not always the same, too. Mine has the short struts that bolt up to a flange from the bottom, but some of the Audi models have the long ones that bolt up to that tall bracket that goes all the way to the top of the wheel arch.

I've honestly never paid that close of attention. It always seemed to me that the Volkswagens got leftover Audi parts, and the Volkswagen never did get the IRS on the FWD cars that the Audi got in the early 2000s.

Passat has a slightly longer wheelbase, too, doesn't it? Closer to the larger A6?
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Yes, the Passat does have a longer wheelbase. Its quite surprising when you compare the rear legroom in a Passat with an A4 when they appear to be the same size car

They are all the same up front, with the C5 just being a bit wider up top and using the outer lower mounts on the common subframe. The Passat is a mongrel though with the B5/C5 common front end, on a narrowed C5 floorpan with narrowed C5 rear suspension. It also shares much more electrical stuff with the C5 than the B5.

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Ah, yes, now I realize what you are saying. Again, never paid that close of attention I did not realize it was that cut and dried and consistent over the model years.

I do remember having the conversation with my brother regarding wheelbase. As he had a used Audi A4 sedan when I bought my [first] B5.5 Passat, and I told him it was essentially rolling on the same basic platform only mine was longer (wink wink ). He could not believe that a mere Volkswagen was longer yet less expensive than the Audi, so he had to get a tape measure out.

But the real difference is very pronounced in the rear leg room department. However the Audi feels better and more "tossable" in the turns, even my brother's that was an older FWD one that still had the same twist beam style rear axle.
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