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Old June 26th, 2017, 13:13   #196
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I think we have 18,500 on it now.......... Average FE over that course for me was 39.9 MPG's. High of 46.4 (all highway cruise at 75 mph full AC), low of 26.9 (ALL city full AC).

It was a good car and I would buy another again for a cheap commuter.

46.4 all highway @75 with ac is big time impressive to this sailor.

If that is miles driven by gallons used, I don't think too many can beat that (over on Fuelly.com is where I'm looking - - in addition to here and VW Vortex)...........


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Old August 28th, 2017, 20:21   #197
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46.4 all highway @75 with ac is big time impressive to this sailor.

If that is miles driven by gallons used, I don't think too many can beat that (over on Fuelly.com is where I'm looking - - in addition to here and VW Vortex)...........


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That is impressive, any new updates?
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Old August 30th, 2017, 11:09   #198
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That is impressive, any new updates?
One update: 2017 Jetta 1.4 turbo 5M now in my garage.

2013 - despite my old signature(s) - has returned to VW.

The 1.4 sure gets good Fuelly numbers. Hope I do too.


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Old August 31st, 2017, 22:55   #199
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Hey EZShift5, I'm really torn on what to do, so are you happy on your new Jetta compared to the TDI. My 2011 TDI 6sp manual has been one great car but getting close to 150 k mark so the buy back is tempting. How is your hill climbing in the 1.4t and any mpg data yet? Thanks.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 12:33   #200
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Hey EZShift5.... How is your hill climbing in the 1.4t and any mpg data yet? Thanks.
Have yet to drive eastward over the Sierra Nevada to Reno (so no real opinion on hill or mountain performance).

Fuelly has data for 2017/2016 Jetta 1.4 turbo MPG.

Now is certainly the right time to purchase!

(I feel like I stole the car)


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Old September 1st, 2017, 16:05   #201
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Hey EZShift5, I'm really torn on what to do, so are you happy on your new Jetta compared to the TDI. My 2011 TDI 6sp manual has been one great car but getting close to 150 k mark so the buy back is tempting. How is your hill climbing in the 1.4t and any mpg data yet? Thanks.
Well, it has the same power as a 2.0 CR TDI, and more torque than a 2006 PD TDI at a similar low starting RPM.

So I would guess that the hill climbing is as good or better than any pre-Common rail TDI.

My 1.8 TSI has the same torque as the 1.4 TSI (mine is manual, the automatics are even better at 200 lb-ft), but more hp (170 hp) and does great, little or no need to downshift.

My last tank showed 5.7 L/100 km on the MFD, and 5.65 hand-calculated (I adjusted my MFD scaling factor with VCDS and now my fuel consumption on the MFD is accurate).

My previous TDI would average 5.0 L/100 km in the same conditions, so I am quite pleased. The 1.4 should be able to do even better than the 1.8.
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Old September 4th, 2017, 07:06   #202
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My last tank showed 5.7 L/100 km on the MFD, and 5.65 hand-calculated (I adjusted my MFD scaling factor with VCDS and now my fuel consumption on the MFD is accurate).
My previous TDI would average 5.0 L/100 km in the same conditions, so I am quite pleased. The 1.4 should be able to do even better than the 1.8.
Which vehicle calc'd 5.65? (That's about 50 MPG)....................
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Old September 4th, 2017, 08:01   #203
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Which vehicle calc'd 5.65? (That's about 50 MPG)....................
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Golf hatch, 1.8 TSI. My wife's new wagon, driven the same way, is about 0.4 L/100 km higher. I attribute that to several factors: not broken in, 16" vs 15" tires on the hatch, and slightly larger and heavier car.

To put things in perspective, the fuel economy of my Golf TSI is better than our 2.0 PD Passat TDI ever was. It would average about 6.5 and you had to work at it to get 5.7 on the highway, though I saw as low as 5.4 on a long highway drive at the speed limit.
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Old September 4th, 2017, 22:37   #204
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Very impressive for a 1.8 hombre. Well Done.




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Old September 5th, 2017, 07:17   #205
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Very impressive for a 1.8 hombre. Well Done.
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Mostly achieved by driving on 80-90 km/h rural roads, and a bit of autoroute, where I keep it to 105 km/h max except to overtake. Plus anticipating lights, coasting to stops, and the like.

Go above 105 and consumption starts to rise. Most of my drives on the autoroute are about 90-100 km, so no real percentage time-wise, point-to-point, in going faster but significant percentage at the pump. You can bank money, but not time so a minute or two saved on a trip really doesn't add much to one's life

In Quebec, the truck traffic is governed to 105 km/h (trucks must have speed limiting devices), so that allows me to find a good slot between trucks in the right lane, only needing to overtake the odd slowpoke or truck governed to 90 (there are some). Much less stressful than playing cat-and-mouse at 120 in the fast lane like most folks do.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 19:39   #206
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Well, it has the same power as a 2.0 CR TDI, and more torque than a 2006 PD TDI at a similar low starting RPM.
So I would guess that the hill climbing is as good or better than any pre-Common rail TDI.
My 1.8 TSI has the same torque as the 1.4 TSI (mine is manual, the automatics are even better at 200 lb-ft), but more hp (170 hp) and does great, little or no need to downshift.
My last tank showed 5.7 L/100 km on the MFD, and 5.65 hand-calculated (I adjusted my MFD scaling factor with VCDS and now my fuel consumption on the MFD is accurate).
My previous TDI would average 5.0 L/100 km in the same conditions, so I am quite pleased. The 1.4 should be able to do even better than the 1.8.
While it does have great low end torque, below 1400 RPM's the TDI is much stronger, especially on take off. Slipping the clutch in the TSI took throttle input to not stall, while the TDI really doesnt. I would attribute that probably to the inertia of the TDI's internals vs the gasser.
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Old September 8th, 2017, 07:04   #207
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Has anyone heard of tunes that don't necessitate using 91 octane? Would be nice to get a little better fuel consumption or something
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Old September 8th, 2017, 08:10   #208
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Most recent tank, 5.85 L/100, a little higher than MFD (5.7 again), I had one tank somewhat lower than MFD (5.4 vs 5.7), and the above mentioned tank spot-on. so it's averaging out pretty close to MFD. No complaints with those numbers. Variation is probably from the pump shut-off point. I most often fill from the same pump at the same station, but I don't think the shut-off is an exact science yet...

1.4 will be better. As for the torque question, I can't say I feel a whole lot of difference off the line. Once it's up to 1500 rpm it takes off.
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Wait, are you doing 5.85L / 100 on the 1.8tsi? Cause that's awesome
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I have a 1.4 Jetta TSI for a loaner while my TDI is getting its emissions fix and I must say I'm surprised how much I like this engine. The torque is impressive and the ride and handling very good. On my daily 50 mile freeway drive I'm getting in 40 to 44 mpg range (computer of course, but close enough). The car handles nicely -- quick acceleration, solid steering, and takes the curves almost as good as my 2009 TDI. The interior quality is on the cheap side but well designed and better than many of the other cars I've rented in this price category. I wonder if there will be any long term maintenance issues with this engine.
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