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Old June 24th, 2016, 05:20   #1
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Well, since my TDI let go on me, we needed another car while we were out here in NE. So after a long decision, we went and test drove one. 2016 Jetta SE, 1.4 TSI/manual (hard to find a manual apparently!). Drove decent. Good torque down low, decent upper end. 150hp and 184 ft lbs (at 1400 rpm's).

So we haggled them down to 15K out the door. MSRP was 20,500 IIRC. Drove from Omaha to Lincoln. 5 miles of town driving, the rest was highway at 75mph, all with AC. Dash displayed 44MPG's when I pulled in (obviously we cant trust it, but its an indicator).

For the price, I dont see any other car out on the market place that can touch it. I dont know what the price of a TDI version would be, but I dont know if the premium would be worth it...
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Old June 24th, 2016, 05:25   #2
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Awesome! While I will certainly miss the "2-point-slow" that the 1.4L replaced due to its ruggedness and simplicity, it could never match the performance and fuel economy of the new 1.4L. I wish they'd offer that engine in a stripper Golf.

Hope to see how it holds up over time, thanks for posting. What kind of RPM does it turn at what speeds on the highway?
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Old June 24th, 2016, 07:32   #3
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Looks like it turns about 2100-2200 rpms at 75mph. 5th is .63
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Old June 24th, 2016, 07:34   #4
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That's pretty good. Does it feel like it pulls the hills OK in high gear? No need to downshift? A/C running effect it much?
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Old June 24th, 2016, 08:03   #5
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The new gassers that VW has are pretty impressive. As are the gear ratios in the manuals. My husband picked up a '16 GLI 6-speed on New Years Eve to replace his '01 TDI. He drives highway twice a week to a job site and was getting low-mid 40's in the TDI at 80 with the AC. Pulled 38mpg doing the same commute recently in the GLI so we're not complaining. Definitely a fan of it.
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Old June 24th, 2016, 08:43   #6
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This thread may be making my day.................(as I had no clue the 1.4 liter was available in the USA)


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It has plenty of power. Down below I'd say 1700 RPM's there is a little lag for turbo spool up. But it definitely has good down low torque, and the upper end is smooth and pulls well. It pulls better than a stage 1 tuned BEW, maybe less low end torque but a much better upper end
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It was the only manual equipped one I could find within a decent drive radius. AC had no noticeable effects on driving. The only downside I would say is that I do have to actually give it some throttle to get going from a stop, more than a TDI would require.
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My stepson just bought a 2016 Jetta SE 1.4 automatic for about $17K out the door. I was impressed driving it as to how quick it is, although we have no hills around here to see how it does on one.

You can't get in a Honda or Hyundai similar model for this price.
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Senor FordGuy100 - I'd sure be interested in mo' data on your highway mpg (if you can see your way clear here).

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Just an update. Stop and go seems to average below city driving MPG claims. This is probably the case for a lot of the smaller GTDI's out there. Luckily, I dont do much of that. Suburban driving seems to be around the low 30 MPG point.
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 08:07   #12
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First road trip. Lincoln NE to Fort Smith AR. Half flat, half rolling hills (northern AR had some decent hills) 75mph cruise with AC, 41.5mpg's. Wife did the same run leaving in the morning vs me at night, and averaged 43mpg's driving the same (both seemed low to me). I filled with non ethonol 87 oct. I might try premium for the way back for fun.
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The dealer close to me said that the '17 models will be 1.5T and no more 1.4T
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My 2013 Jetta Hybrid had this motor......with a 27 HP electric Motor attached and a 7 Speed DSG transmission Loved the way it drove .......sadly the Hybrid was a huge bust for VW and is being dropped for 2017 and unfortunately they do not attach that DSG to the stand alone 1.4 engine....
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What happened to the TDI,and which one?
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