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TDI Conversions Discussions on converting non TDIs into TDIS. More general items can be answered better in other sections. This is ideal for issues that don't have an overlap and are very special to swaping engines.

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Old July 16th, 2014, 09:43   #1
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I figure it's time I start a build thread. I'm preparing to swap a 2010 CJAA in place of the 2.7tt in a 2000 Audi A6. The car already has a 6-speed 01E, so that's being left alone for now. I'll add pictures and more details later, but I have a couple quick questions.

Is there a difference between the ALH/BEW and BRM/CBEA/CJAA oil pickup tubes? I know the 1.8t tube works for an ALH in a longitudinal application, but would the 1.8t tube also fit the CJAA oil pump? Idparts lists two different parts, one for an ALH/BEW and another for the BRM/CBEA/CJAA but I can't distinguish any differences from the photos alone.

Oil pan. Everything I'm finding suggests that the AWM 1.8t oil pan will fit the CJAA just fine. Can anyone confirm this before I buy one?

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Old July 16th, 2014, 10:18   #2
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the difference in the pickup tubes is due to the oil pan difference....I tried to put a BRM pan on an ALH but the pickup interfered with the bottom of the pan....so the pickup tube is slightly different between the common rail, BRM and the earlier VE/PD's ....I think you would probably be ok using the 1.8t longitudinal pickup and pan..
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Old July 16th, 2014, 10:35   #3
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Thanks Jim!
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 06:53   #4
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Does anyone have a way to look up the part number for a 2010 Audi A4 2.0 TDI (as sold in Europe) accessory bracket? Ideally I need the part numbers for the bracket, idler, and tensioner pulleys. I don't have access to ETKA. Found a few places to download it online, but that seemed a bit sketchy. Maybe I'm just new to it, but I couldn't seem to find it on vagcat. Thanks.
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 16:07   #5
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Assuming you'll need to source it as well, PM Frans. He's in the Netherlands and is a vendor of used parts on here with good prices.
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Old July 25th, 2014, 05:45   #6
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Assuming you'll need to source it as well, PM Frans. He's in the Netherlands and is a vendor of used parts on here with good prices.
Let me know if you get in touch w him, been nearly a month and still no reply to me on T4 TDI conversion parts
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Old July 25th, 2014, 13:57   #7
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Will do. Are those parts you already bought or need to buy?
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Old July 25th, 2014, 15:13   #8
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Let me know if you get in touch w him, been nearly a month and still no reply to me on T4 TDI conversion parts
I just bought a rebuilt DUJ Eurovan trans and conversion parts 2 weeks ago, delivered last Tuesday. Use his email address - dutchautoparts.com
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I just bought a rebuilt DUJ Eurovan trans and conversion parts 2 weeks ago, delivered last Tuesday. Use his email address - dutchautoparts.com
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I look forward to this. Good Luck, Also, Boraparts may be able to help.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 05:26   #11
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GTiTDi - Frans got back to me promptly as well, so I would try him at the email given above if you haven't yet, that's what I used.

Aside from getting the ECU tuned and the new accessory bracket, all the parts have come in. I just got the Bentley manual as well, so I'm going to spend some time studying the wiring diagrams. I'll make a spreadsheet with the pin-out, and be sure to document what I do to the harness to make it work in this car. I can see that being pretty useful on here.

Getting the 2.7t pulled out so I can get the ball rolling.
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Pictures to come. I'm hoping to have the CJAA setting down in there after this weekend. Then it's a wiring game, lol.
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Old August 18th, 2014, 08:39   #13
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I was swapping on the new oil pan yesterday, and just about had a heart attack. The AWM pan wasn't the same. The bolt pattern is the same, but the CJAA pan has sections that extend out beyond the bolt holes to clear the windage tray. Here's a Picture:



After removing the windage tray, I see that the block continues underneath, so there is a straight path and no issue with having a surface to seal against. So one question, what to do about the windage tray? I'm guessing simply cutting the tabs off would not be best. Is there another that will fit with this pan? One out of an ALH maybe?
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Subscribed. I picked up a 2000 A6 2.7t with 6 speed manual, but the plan is to install a BHW and a euro spec TDI gearbox. I already know the RPM the gasser gearbox will be turning so no need to go back and take out and install the gearbox twice as I would not be happy with the RPMs. Good luck and make good notes.
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Old August 18th, 2014, 09:52   #15
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What are you doing for engine management? Are you going to take the entire CAN bus controller / ABS system / instrument pod to make it all work?
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