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Old April 11th, 2012, 12:03   #31
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Watching with interest. John, please let us know how the installation went and impressions.
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Old April 11th, 2012, 13:00   #32
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I think that I am going to get one of these sooner than later. How long does it take to reach New York and what forms of payment are accepted?
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Old April 12th, 2012, 00:10   #33
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Watching with interest. John, please let us know how the installation went and impressions.
Will do!

Just had some surgery and lifting any weight is out of bounds for about a month. So I may not get this done as fast as I would like.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 17:13   #34
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Radim,
I sent you a PM a few days ago. When will you be accepting MC payments?
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Old April 13th, 2012, 10:43   #35
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This kit is interesting. I've talked to an experienced workshop about it, but they dont think it is possible to do the conversion without removing the gearbox from the car, given that the internal fork (AKA gear shift rail) needs to be changed. Are there a description around anywhere of how to perform this particular step without disassembling the gearbox?
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Old April 13th, 2012, 14:43   #36
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See post 25 & 26 in this thread.


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This kit is interesting. I've talked to an experienced workshop about it, but they dont think it is possible to do the conversion without removing the gearbox from the car, given that the internal fork (AKA gear shift rail) needs to be changed. Are there a description around anywhere of how to perform this particular step without disassembling the gearbox?
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Old April 13th, 2012, 16:08   #37
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Radim,
I sent you a PM a few days ago. When will you be accepting MC payments?
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I am really sorry for the delay of response. We do not accept MC as of yet, we opened bank account at Citfin, which uses ING Bank and so the paying should be easier.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 17:19   #38
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See post 25 & 26 in this thread.
Yeah I read that, but I can't tell them 'you do it through a hole', I would need to give clearer instructions than that! :-)

Now these guys have a great deal of experience with VAG gearboxes (and 6th gear conversion kits), but I have absolutely none, which means that for me it's not easy to explain to them without help. Hence why I was asking about instructions :-)


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Placed my order for the kit this morning.

A .59 6th gear will be a bit longer than the .622 5th I am running now. should be nice with the stock .756 ratio for 5th gear. Fills in that hole I have now from 4th to 5th (.622).

Will post more as this progresses.
This sounds like a really good idea ... since I'd like a 6th gear which is as long as possible, the 0.59 ratio would work as a perfect 'overdrive' for motorway cruising. There would be quite a big gap between my 5th (the standard 0.75) and 6th, but that's OK.

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Diagram of John's gearbox:

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My 1st to 5th gear ratios are as above, but since my wheels etc are different diameter, these result in different speeds. So 60mph = 2205rpm for me currently in 5th. A 0.59 6th would be around 1734 at 60mph, or 2600 at 90mph.
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Old April 14th, 2012, 14:12   #39
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My 1st to 5th gear ratios are as above, but since my wheels etc are different diameter, these result in different speeds. So 60mph = 2205rpm for me currently in 5th. A 0.59 6th would be around 1734 at 60mph, or 2600 at 90mph.
Your gearbox could be modified as shown in the diagram.

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Old April 14th, 2012, 14:42   #40
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Just for reference, a tire with a circumference of about 185cm is what the Mk3 and B4 cars run stock. The Mk4s are about 199cm.

The CTN code transmission is used on the Mk3 and B4s, it has a taller final drive ratio that effectively makes up for the tire size difference between the generations of cars.

So the numbers for the CTN code (engine RPM vs. vehicle speed) transmission are correct on your graphs. The later cars with the shorter 3.39 final drive have larger tires--~199cm circumference. Those graphs could use a change

Is there a plan to offer a .622 6th gear? I think with the stock 5th at ~.75 that would be about perfect.
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Just for reference, a tire with a circumference of about 185cm is what the Mk3 and B4 cars run stock. The Mk4s are about 199cm.
The CTN code transmission is used on the Mk3 and B4s, it has a taller final drive ratio that effectively makes up for the tire size difference between the generations of cars.
So the numbers for the CTN code (engine RPM vs. vehicle speed) transmission are correct on your graphs. The later cars with the shorter 3.39 final drive have larger tires--~199cm circumference. Those graphs could use a change
Is there a plan to offer a .622 6th gear? I think with the stock 5th at ~.75 that would be about perfect.
Yes, we know that even bigger tires exist, but the diagram is for displaying recommended changes of ratios. If we were using different circumferences, the diagrams wouldn't be comparable to each other.

We don't offer .622 ratio, we make only those ratios, that can be used in the most of 5-gear gearboxes. The most popular 6th gear for TDI engines was .65, which continues on .75; VW makes 5-gear gearboxes with longer 5th gear now, so we had to add .59 ratio to our special 6th gears. It continues on 5th gear .71. We are preparing 6th gear .52 for new generation of VW T5 with 5th gear .66 gearboxes. 6th gear .74 is the most used in gasoline engines.

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Old April 16th, 2012, 09:12   #42
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So the question for me is what would most shops charge to install this kit along with a clutch (just labor).
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Old April 16th, 2012, 23:04   #43
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So the question for me is what would most shops charge to install this kit along with a clutch (just labor).
Depends on their labor rate, doesn't it? What do typical shops in your area charge for labor and how many hours do they charge for a clutch job? Guess you might want to ad 1 to 3 hours to do the kit.
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So the question for me is what would most shops charge to install this kit along with a clutch (just labor).
It would also depend on whether they manage to figure out how to modify the gearbox while still on the car, or if it is a gearbox removal & disassembly job.

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Depends on their labor rate, doesn't it? What do typical shops in your area charge for labor and how many hours do they charge for a clutch job? Guess you might want to ad 1 to 3 hours to do the kit.

Audi main dealerships here in the UK charge $170 - $300 per hour (at current rate $1.58=1), but they wouldn't touch anything non-standard in any case. I think the tuning shop I normally go to for everything is about $120/hour. I suspect it will be cheaper on your side of the pond :-)
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Old April 27th, 2012, 23:53   #45
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Just noticed Eurotuning has edited the first post to include instructions on how to do the install without pulling the transmission from the car.
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