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Vendor & GroupBuy items for sale VW TDI/Diesel related items for sale by vendors and Groupbuys. The only commercial posts to these forums are that of Vendors with TDI related equipment. To start a post, you must be a Registered Vendor. You may periodically post a note about products you may have for sale/services so long you indicate clearly you are from the company selling these products/services. The right to discontinue this practice & remove excessive posts remains with the operators of TDIClub. Please note there is also a webpage of TDI Vendors" Group-buys are permited if sponsored by a registered vendor.

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Old January 21st, 2013, 07:08   #16
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i would be interested in participating in group chat if available to lend ideas for a catagory based system. please send info on details.
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Old January 24th, 2013, 14:25   #17
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One of the things I saw was several vendors with multiple threads advertising essentially the same things or a vendor having 5 or more threads each with one item. It got out of hand which is why it was changed. I understand the point that someone can easily see what the vendor offers and that is great for parts. However, for someone who mainly sells services such as myself it means we get relegated to the bottom of the page every time a vendor opens 5 new threads. Why not just visit the vendor's website, email or call them to determine what they carry or do? If a vendor has no website, call them or e-mail. If they do not get back to you within a reasonable amount of time they probably do not have an item or don't care.
Honestly, whatever the moderators want is fine with me.
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Old January 24th, 2013, 15:15   #18
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again, more reason for categorical separation. a separate forum under classifieds for services would be great!

what i would like to see:

regular classifieds
service classifieds
vendor parts (new) classifieds
vendor parts (used) classifieds
vehicle classifieds

this will thin out the vendor section and get more attention to those offering services as they wont get bumped off the front page by someone selling lots of parts. its also easier for a member to find a local tech, used part, or new part.
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Old January 24th, 2013, 16:01   #19
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I hate to complain, this is a net negative for me, the consumer.

Separate threads from vendors are easy to search on for particular items. Multiple pages in a long thread means that for a particular item search returns just one thread, and one then has to click through each page to find the thing.

In addition, some vendors list so many things in one thread it gets really confusing. For example, for clarity's sake, when I send an email, it's one email for one subject. This is why it's best to one have thread for one category of product. For those vendors selling multiple different categories (turbos, or maps sensors, or intakes, or transmissions, and etc.) it doesn't make sense to have them all in one thread because again, the subject can't possibly be descriptive of the contents of the thread.

I realize this forum is a lot of work to manage, and a lot of thought has been put into this effort so far, but in my view, it would be much much better to allow vendors to have multiple threads.

IMHO, .02, and thanks again.

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I agree with Judson one some of his key points.

I respect and appreciate what the mods do, but there must be some sense of balance.

For vendors that offer a wide range of products and services like myself, one thread for everything is going to be massive, hard to follow, and there won't be room for the direct question posts about specific items without creating clutter. That means I'll be getting 30 emails/pms a day with the exact same simple questions.

I look forward to the announcement of new policies and arrangements.
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Old January 24th, 2013, 23:44   #20
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Thanks guys for the support and good inputs. I'm sorry to keep putting this back, but the moderator staff and admin are scheduling teleconference time with Fred first, then we will roll out and talk with you all.

Thank you so much to the vendor community. I am really impressed. My goal is to drive more traffic to the vendor pages and to ease or decrease the percieved stigma or burdens on vendors. For now let's stick with the 1 thread in the front page--when we're ready (soon, I think), we can work toward a finer balance.

I do appreciate the constructive inputs!
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Old January 26th, 2013, 18:38   #21
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I must say that this new vendor classifieds system is working rather well for me!

Being able to see a vendors complete offerings in one thread is much easier that sorting through pages of vendor ads to find one product!
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Old January 28th, 2013, 08:24   #22
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Bump your master vendor threads to keep pushing locked/deleted/moved notices off the front page. It's nice to see a page of pure vendor goodies and nothing more/less

Then ask for post deletions--those bumps are needed to keep the page fresh, but they also add clutter. If we delete them at your request, your page will look clean and it won't affect its placement (deletions don't change page ranks). (Edit to add): You can delete posts individually within each post's edit box function. I *think* only moderators can delete customer bumps (at your request, of course).[/edit]

I don't subscribe to your pages and don't read them until they are reported, or when I notice you have more than 1 vendor thread on the front page of this section. So notifications/requests for cleanup should be by PM, email, or SMS.

Reports/referrals go to all moderators and the admin.

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Old January 28th, 2013, 12:52   #23
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I agree with Judson one some of his key points.

I respect and appreciate what the mods do, but there must be some sense of balance.

For vendors that offer a wide range of products and services like myself, one thread for everything is going to be massive, hard to follow, and there won't be room for the direct question posts about specific items without creating clutter. That means I'll be getting 30 emails/pms a day with the exact same simple questions.

I look forward to the announcement of new policies and arrangements.

I wish to address the bold content: so, IF you are doing a good job of describing your products and services, you really shouldn't EVER have 30 PM's a day or get massive thread questions. That is just proof you aren't organizing or structuring your content well. As a vendor, you should anticipate your customer queries and answer them before they are asked.

Examples:

"Will your DP fit my mark 3 conversion?"
"Is that a TIG welded part?"
"will you warrant this in my _nonstandard_ application if it conforms to the standard application's dimension/power/pattern (etcetera)?"

These are screaming at you to get organized and methodical. If you do get organized, and customers are still struggling to understand your product specifications and applications, you can point them out to your other threads in their respective sub-forums ( you can post as many non-commercial threads as you want outside of this section.)

The vendor's section has historically not gotten many page views, but you should all understand that by the time a customer makes his or her way to the vendor's section, THEY ARE 90% READY TO BUY from you. Make it easy on them, here. Multiple pages are nice, FOR YOU, but not for the buying customer, IMO.

Edit to add: this enforcement action is intended to drive more traffic to you here, in the hopes that your buying customers come here to see more professionalized pages that makes it easy to shop. {side-note: many of you have external websites also, so you can surely appreciate the integration between these FREE forum hosted pages and your websites. What a tremendous resource you are getting, huh?}

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Old January 29th, 2013, 04:22   #24
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I am not a vendor; however I was the owner of a brick and mortar, and built my own web pages. So I perhaps I have a somewhat unique perspective...

The nature of forums lends itself not to multiple subjects within one thread, but multiple threads covering different topics.

A single website can be carved up with submenus focusing on each product. This allows the vendor to tailor specific information to each line of product they have: specific, focused content.

Forum software does this poorly. As others have echoed, allowing a vendor to had multiple threads focusing on different categories is a way to get around this inherent weakness. Or, if you like, have whole subcategories.

For example right now we have private, vendor, and for sale. The vendor section could have sub-categories according to either make/model (MK4, MK5, etc.) or by function ( engine, body, interior, exterior). This would look cleaner and probably be easier to manage.... It would also be easier for the perspective buyer to navigate and find exactly what they want.

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Old January 29th, 2013, 20:54   #25
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Scott DeWitt is granted 48 hours shopkeeping time to sort/organize. Edit: Scott finished early-08:08 Tuesday.

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Old January 29th, 2013, 21:03   #27
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I'm deleting page bumps in your threads (just simple "bump" or "to the top" posts) to keep them clean.
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Old January 30th, 2013, 08:39   #28
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Old January 30th, 2013, 19:43   #29
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I feel your pain. This particular forum model is out-dated, unorganized, and inadequate. I can remember coming onto TDIclub for the first time thinking, this is not user-friendly whatsoever. Now that I've been indoctrinated by continued hours of searching; I've learned a little. Just wanted to make my point as a new-comer, this is gibberish. I agree with GotEuroCorrado that forum categories need to be broadened. I'd like to see a regional division of some kind as long as it does not exclude searches from someone who does not specify region....aka, vortex. I also agree with Judson's point about comparing forums to web pages; much greater depth and organization. However, that's not the nature of forums and I feel your frustration. My experience as an initiator is simple; which I do feel corresponds to the nature of these forums. When I put up my part-out: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=337994
I really didn't have a clue; I can remember searching for some guidance, or at least an example. I didn't really come across anything authoritative. So I just read a bunch of other ones, searched for continuity and unforeseen problems. My model has some good ideas that have proven to be effective; but this is my first and only part-out. You guys must really be pulling your hair out.
I say, either upgrade the forum software or do the best with what we got....and by that I mean, the administrator needs to write a concise but clear play book for each sale, wtb, trade, or group buy vendor or not. By clear I mean like when you sign up for a credit card or something. There's a little check box followed by a bunch of legal jargon. Have that be your play book that pops up before someone goes to make a thread. So what's it going to be? A software upgrade or more band aids?
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Old February 5th, 2013, 02:33   #30
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An idea that I've seen some other forums use, that appears to work well, is give each vendor that's large enough their own subforum. That way, they can post as much as they want, without polluting the main vendor forum. (One forum that used that gave the vendor moderation powers over their subforum, but I think that's getting to be a bit much.)
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