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Vendor & GroupBuy items for sale VW TDI/Diesel related items for sale by vendors and Groupbuys. The only commercial posts to these forums are that of Vendors with TDI related equipment. To start a post, you must be a Registered Vendor. You may periodically post a note about products you may have for sale/services so long you indicate clearly you are from the company selling these products/services. The right to discontinue this practice & remove excessive posts remains with the operators of TDIClub. Please note there is also a webpage of TDI Vendors" Group-buys are permited if sponsored by a registered vendor.

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Old June 10th, 2011, 06:41   #16
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I figured as much, thanks for the explanation!
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Old June 10th, 2011, 08:37   #17
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Prothe is a member here:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/member.php?u=87399

Maybe OP can add this link to the first post.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 12:31   #18
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I got tired after an hour and a half, but I thought it was necessary. I'll add more to the list if you put a date and describe the link like I did. How's that for spoon feeding?


Unacceptable parts from Prothe. The majority of these cases, there was no retribution.

10/07 The wrong kit is sent (confirmed to client it was right) tensioner let go = dead head
12/07 a turbo that takes way too much work to "plug and play"
1/08 Another difficult "plug and play" turbo
3/08 Thread with Prothe responding to customer disattisfaction
3/08 A badly constructed timing belt kit
3/09 A bad 1z turbo that failed on start up
11/09 Dead on arrival injection pump
12/09 A bad injection pump that won't start right or idle correctly
1/10 Prothe speaks
4/10 A Prothe rebuilt injection pump
5/10 A rebuilt injection pump that grenaded
5/10 A "plug and play" turbo that never fit right
7/10 Prothe brokers a junk engine to a customer
9/10 A bad prothe Maf
10/10 A Prothe injection pump that never runs right, sad
11/10 Prothe head with a good TB kit don't mix
1/11 Same type of head damage at 3800 miles
1/11 Head gets lunched as the timing belt kit fails 2269 miles down the road
3/11 Timing belt kit that lasted 549 miles
4/11 A timing belt that ripped apart and Prothe not taking responsibility
6/11 A bad injection pump
7/23 A bad injection pump from injection-pump dot com

I kinda wish this pop-up thread showed up to all new members/lurkers

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Old June 14th, 2011, 20:31   #19
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Interesting. Though I am a pretty strict follower of "you get what you pay for" so I doubt I would buy anything excessively cheap, I am glad I ran into this. I've been on it for a few minutes following a link from VWVortex, and what he has to offer is inhumane.

Engineering? Jeeeeze.
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Old June 14th, 2011, 20:44   #20
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check out his warranty:


If a part that RE sells is claimed to be defective or incompatible, RE does not cover installation or removal expenses of that part. If a part that RE sells is alleged to have caused damages to other parts in a customer's car, RE is not responsible for those damages.

translation, if the tb kit lets go and your valves and pistons make love in the block he will GLADLY replace the tb kit

sounds fair does it not

lol

westportparts.com/volkswaparts/TermsOfSale.htm
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Old June 14th, 2011, 21:15   #21
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read the cost of a real turbo vis a vi a prothe turbo, lol

http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=14291.0
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Old June 15th, 2011, 09:12   #22
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Most places that sell parts of any kind have warranties like that... NAPA, Autozone, etc are all like that..
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Old June 18th, 2011, 02:36   #23
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read the cost of a real turbo vis a vi a prothe turbo, lol

http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=14291.0
That thread was doomed from the start. The issue was immediately twisted to being one of vendor envy on the part of the OP in that thread (ie Prothe's ability to sell at a significantly lower price point then the OP who was/is a vendor). It went downhill from there.

Sadly, there are a significant number of people out there that believe everything in life is a conspiracy, a coverup, a sporting event with sides and personally subscribe to the "it could never happen to me mentality" --- all of which are/were on display in that thread.

Prothe sells on price. There is simply no arguing that point. The point that is arguable is the quality of certain select parts offered and the risk of use of those parts on one's vehicle. There seems to be enough horror stories on enthusiast websites from unwitting buyers to the effect that if you buy a turbo, an injection pump, a timing belt kit, or a replacement head or internal engine part from Prothe that you are at an increased risk of experiencing a catastrophic failure to your engine.

Now compare that with the lack of horror stories on enthusiast websites from other vendors or from dealer sourced parts --- and then ask why. I think that is a fair question that an individual buyer must make on their own when choosing whether to buy from Prothe. To our conspiracy friends who want to pipe in about comparing total sales of Prothe to any one vendor --- put all those vendors together with dealer sourced parts. The reported catastrophic failures is therefore worthy of a warning on such Prothe parts IMO.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 11:08   #24
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I take every possible opportinity to steer my customers away from his products. I probably saved him at least 50 pissed off customers. Ha, he should thank me!!!
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Old August 8th, 2011, 20:49   #25
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I just looked at some of his Taiwanese pistons. The weights are over 4 gr off. To me, that's too much and in a sampling of only 4 pistons. I don't know the brand of rings. For that I get VERY particular.

I would consider buying from him, "Aiding and abetting."
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Old August 8th, 2011, 21:23   #26
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I would consider buying from him, "Aiding and abetting."
100x... he'd not exist if people weren't always looking for a steal of a deal.
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Old August 19th, 2011, 14:23   #27
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Unless he is registered with the Board of Engineering and Surveying in the state of NC it is unlawful for him to use the word "engineering" in his business name
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Old September 27th, 2011, 19:21   #28
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It looks like TDIclub vendor:

"The Bug Dash"

May not be a good person to do business with


http://newbeetle.org/forums/parts-ac...tml#post547970

http://newbeetle.org/forums/parts-ac...tml#post547970
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Old October 2nd, 2011, 15:36   #29
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Rothenbacher is a scum-bag. He burnt me on some parts to the tune of about $40. I filed the BBB complaint, but don't expect it to go anywhere. I have toyed with the idea of suing him as I am an attorney, but I don't see how I could ever make it worth while, so I will just vent here a little bit. Avoid this guy like the plague. It should have been a giveaway when every email I sent got answered by someone from a different website name. Oh well. F. this douche.
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I'm almost wondering if we should set up a fund to pay for the legal expenses necessary to get this guy out of business...
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