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TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

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Old December 2nd, 2010, 21:35   #31
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We are not naming and shaming the garage as we are giving them the opportunity to put things right (even though they stripped the box down and gave up half way through)..

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Can you tell us if the garage is state side or UK?
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Old December 3rd, 2010, 00:34   #32
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Edited as the shop has started to make payments to put this right.
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Old December 3rd, 2010, 04:54   #33
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At bare minimum it needs all new bearings and syncros. Hopefully a brass brush will clean all the crap off the gears and they'll be ok. Whether that's cost effective or not, now that's a different story.
Looking at the gear teeth you will have to replace some gears, or they will be very loud.

I could use the cases, but that gearbox is toast.

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so, that trans is garbage then? or can it be rebuilt?
It can be rebuilt however it's likely not cost effective.

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I always thought transaxles (and engines) void of lubricant should have a BIG dayglow tag afixed to them stating "This Unit Has No Oil and Must Be Filled With Proper Lubricant Before Use" (or similar wording). It should be common sense to check, but NEVER underestimate the power of human stupidity. You are better protected if you put such a tag on the unit, because if it comes back to you, you warned them and it is their fault.

I bought a used transaxle once and it had such a tag, but it was still full of lube! (I guess they forgot to drain it).

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Old December 4th, 2010, 17:09   #34
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Wow! Must've had a tweeker put that trans in! All used components we get are ALWAYS empty! Shipping companies won't even take stuff that has fluid in it, even local UPS.
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Old December 4th, 2010, 18:23   #35
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I would name the shop. It's asinine to assume that a shipped transmission has fluid in it.

The pics, let alone the odour, confirm that the transmission was run without oil.

The tech messes up and needs to man up for their mistake.
No two ways about it.
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Old December 4th, 2010, 18:41   #36
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Anbody/anyshop, that installs/replaces a transmission...Absolutely knows to check the level..

Even if no fluid is spilled, disturbed, or changed...check the level.

Heck I check the transmission just for courteous jesture when their car is on the lift..
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Old December 4th, 2010, 19:32   #37
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I wonder how often stuff like this happens. Thats how I got my project Jeep for such a good price. The previous owner had assumed the transmission was shot because the Jeep wouldn't move. I pulled the trans and transfer case and found the transfer case (with wrecker pen markings on it) was completely dry. Should have taken some pictures. The planetary gearset looked much the same as the picture above. I'm sure it smelled the same too...
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Old December 4th, 2010, 21:52   #38
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Anbody/anyshop, that installs/replaces a transmission...Absolutely knows to check the level..

Even if no fluid is spilled, disturbed, or changed...check the level.

Heck I check the transmission just for courteous jesture when their car is on the lift..
You would think so. I was told this shop is even on the "trusted tdi shops" list.

I don't know the name of it though so I can't comment there, I'm curious myself.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 05:47   #39
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I'm sure we've all made boneheaded mistakes.

I've found that it's not the mistake, but the response to the mistake that's important.

Of course that presupposes a level of competence that would suggest a lapse like this is just that, and not another in a long line of incompetent acts.
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Old December 6th, 2010, 08:17   #40
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Edited as the shop has started to make payments to put this right.
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Old December 6th, 2010, 12:35   #41
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I'm sure we've all made boneheaded mistakes.

I've found that it's not the mistake, but the response to the mistake that's important.
Very true. We've all left a bolt or two loose before (I'm guilty) when in a hurry, interrupted, etc.

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It could have been one of those things. The apprentice forgetting or if they got interrupted half way through, who knows.

Nobody needs to know which shop this is as long as they make all this right (which we are getting somewhere).

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Even when they make it right, its still sad to see a rare trans destroyed .
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So true!

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I'm sure we've all made boneheaded mistakes.

I've found that it's not the mistake, but the response to the mistake that's important.

Of course that presupposes a level of competence that would suggest a lapse like this is just that, and not another in a long line of incompetent acts.
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Old December 7th, 2010, 00:58   #43
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Hey its easy to get side tracked, I just try to make sure that

1) I check the level
2) I dont stop in the middle of checking it, either I start it/perform it/finish it, or I take the plug stick it in my pocket, that way the car is not getting off the lift without being done.
3) I check visual for 3 times to ensure parts got put back on..

Check, recheck, triple check..

Still some get through, but it does limit how many fall through the crack..
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Back in the 80's I was going to go on a ski trip and figured it would be a good time to change my oil the night before.

I always used to rub some motor oil on the gasket for a better seal before re-installing the gasket and putting it on the car (filter was under the car).

The next morning we hopped in the car (5AM) and headed on our way. Couldn't have been 2 minutes down the road and the oil light came on. Two hours, 5 quarts and another oil filter later we were on our way. Can't say how it happened, but I put the filter on without the gasket. My daughter calls them brainfarts.
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Old December 7th, 2010, 06:38   #45
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Yeah I think we all do it from time to time.. I've gotten sidetracked doing oil changes in the past and noticed the lack of a rain plug while filling the oil. "Why the F is it all on the floor? Oh... Probably because the drain plug is over there..." Things like that usually only happen once, like the extra oil filter gasket that stayed up there when you pulled off the old filter.. That doesn't last long at all..

The worst thing on my part is forgetting to put engine covers back on.. I do it at least once a week.. Most of my customers don't have them on anyway, so I forget and a day or 2 later I see an engine cover laying in the shop and wonder who's it is.. Usually that coincides with a phone call inquiring about a missing engine cover..
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